• Etterra@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    What kind of head in the sand, wishy-washy troglodyte is undecided for this election? We’ve already had 4 years of each, with 24 hour news coverage for literally everything they do.

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      According to this recent study, young people who want a more progressive option

      "A majority (60%) think the U.S. should increase spending on social programs and increase taxes on businesses and wealthy Americans.

      This survey finds no evidence that a rightward ideological shift would solve Biden’s problems with swing voters. Swing voters broadly think Biden needs to take more action to solve our country’s problems and broadly lean left on economic and social issues. Only 16% say that Biden being “too liberal” is a reason they might not vote for him.

      The top two issues swing voters select as actions that would make them definitely vote for Biden are raising taxes on the wealthy (23%) and raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour (18%)."

      https://www.dataforprogress.org/insights/2024/5/30/measuring-the-swing-evaluating-the-key-voters-of-2024

      • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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        Young people are fucking stupid then if they think trump gets them anywhere nearer their goals.

        Source- I was a dumb youth in my day. Vote for the car that gets you closest to your destination, not farther away from it. And definitely don’t abstain and then complain after the fact that things are worse.

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          The DNC needs to accept that this is the group they need to go after… And accept it for what it is, not think they’re magically going to change… Convince Biden to drop out and nominate a progressive if they want to win.

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          I think a lot of voters of every age vote against their own interests.

          I mean honestly it’s hard to imagine that a Trump presidency would be good for anyone who is not either part of the Trump family or already very wealthy.

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        According to this recent study, young people who want a more progressive option

        I mean I know the young are generally ignorant by the simple fact of their age and lack of experience, but in what universe do they think that’s an option? Maybe like 2 years ago we could have pushed for something, but now? It’s Trump or Biden. Being undecided is just saying you don’t know which of those two you would vote for, any other vote is just a vote for the person you like least to win.

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        I suppose that would make sense. Trump doubled down on tax cuts for the wealthy and burning the hell out of fossil fuels. So even if someone were oblivious to his lying, and Trump was able to “perform” more confidently, the end result were policies with grave implications. Also, on the one weak point with progressives, falling to protect Palestinians, Trump’s criticism was that Biden wasn’t pro Israel hard enough…

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          “One weak point” as in progressive’s only weak argument, or as in the only thing Biden is weak on that they want?

          Because there are quite a few other things Biden is weak on that progressives want.

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      Generously, people who were 14-16yo when Trump’s first term ended and weren’t fully aware of what was going on at the time.

      Realistically, a large portion of ‘mainstream’ Republicans embarrassed by what the GOP has become - but still not certain if they can go against decades of Fox News programming and vote for a shudders Democrat.

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      New voters who never cared about politics previously, and may have just started paying attention when they to college and realized everyone there does. There’s a precedent for that being the case at least heh