Lead Lemmy Developer, Dessalines, denying the Tiananmen Square Massacre and praising the Uyghur Genocide
https://sh.itjust.works/post/8419342
Dessalines AKA “parentis_shotgun” on Reddit, is the main Lemmy dev, also the admin of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml.
Their post and discussions on Reddit (archive as the original post must have been removed):
Please join the discussions for Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem:
https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
And the discussions for finding/creating alternative communities on other instances:
https://lemmy.world/post/16235541
What is a tankie?
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes or their allies. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical.
We can’t just oust them from developing sadly but we can spread the news that they are not a good person
We can’t just oust them from developing
Well you could fork and run your own blackjack and hooker emporium.
Dang if you like free speech so much, why not federate with hexbear about it?
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Another astounding revelation from Reddit.world 😲
You should know /politics and /news ban anyone critical of israel and Lemmy.world is ran by Zionists.
Don’t lemmy.worlders like to defed for slight disagreements? Just do it and save us from your brainworms.
Glad I don’t know wtf this is about.
Well this is news to me. The whole thing; created by Marxists, etc, etc.
Wtf?
YSK: you will never see more pathetic whining than people on Lemmy constantly complaining about “tankies”. Full disclosure: I have been called a tankie one time in two years on Lemmy. I commented on a post that was basically jerking off to the idea that Japan would repeat its atrocities against China in the event that there was a war over Taiwan. I expressed doubt that it would go very smoothly, for which I was banned and labeled a tankie.
Lemmy was built by those tankies you disagree with. Numerous accounts have discredited the official US bullshit about Tiananmen Square and the fake Uyghur Genocide.
Are there people that don’t know that Lemmy is developed by Marxists, and their instance is run by Marxists? Thought that was common knowledge, that’s why Lemmy exists in the first place, it was developed along Communist principles.
Great. now we have fediverse Stalin :D
The way comments and users are purged from ml would make Stalin proud!
Are you referring to me? Or Dessalines?
Bruh, Lemmy is a federated clone of Reddit. And tankies did not come up with the Fediverse or Reddit. If anything Lemmy is closer to a classic capitalist structure with the communities being owned by the admin (boss). Users have no control of any community no matter how much they contribute. I guess since tankies are state capitalists anyway they feel right at home.
If you’re new to Lemmy then it won’t be common knowledge at all.
Could be, but again, Lemmy was made along Communist principles, it’s safe to assume people interested in Communist principles are going to be here.
But they may not know the history of it or why it was made before joining. I certainly didn’t, it was more about a decentralised alternative to Reddit, I just joined and explored.
Perhaps the point is that those principles predate Communism by quite some time, and Communism added a lot of its own baggage on them.
Plenty of people try Lemmy then promptly leave when they realize it’s run by “Marxists” (i.e. people pretending to Marxists as a facade for spreading CCP propaganda).
Because Lemmy is usually marketed as the Fediverse alternative to Reddit, not as a communist platform.
That’s not quite correct, they are Marxists Leninists, who are the more Authoritarian and reactionary counterparts.
Exactly. They’re the left sect of fascism, and have “purged” communists in the past
All Marxist-Leninists are Marxists, not all Marxists are Marxist-Leninists.
It’s accurate to describe them as Marxists still.
Kind of but not really. They’re state capitalists.
How so? Where along Lenin’s analysis of Marxism does there become a jump away?
Uh the fact that the workers didn’t own the means of production but the state did. Spare me all the philosophical pretzels about how the state WAS the people haha.
Since when does Marx say that a Worker-State isn’t Socialist? You may wish to revisit Critique of the Gotha Programme. No need to read Lenin there! Marx was no anarchist.
I’m not an anarchist. But pretty sure “Capitalism but the booj is the government”. Isn’t Communism
technically accurate sure, but it implies that all marxists are tankies, which is absolutely not true.
what precisely would be the problem with referring to them by the specific term for what they are?
What separates Marxists from Tankies? I’ve seen dozens of definitions of tankie.
It’s important to recognize that Marxist-Leninists far, far outweigh the number of anti-Lenin Marxists. You don’t have to agree with Lenin to acknowledge that at this point he is almost as relevant to Marxism in a geopolitical context as Marx himself.
oh i see now you’re on lemmy.ml lol, good thing i avoided that endless bad faith argument
Who gives a fuck
Good thing I’m on sh.itjust.works
Maybe I should swap to an Mbin instance instead though… Eh, I like it here and I’m kinda lazy.
And a good thing it is, too - if you liberals were managing it lemmy would have been sold off to Meta or Google a long time ago.
I’m glad that this is the controversy on Lemmy, and not things like Reddit had with r/JailBait.
I’m perfectly fine with just avoiding interactions with lemmy.ml communities. They can exist, even if I disagree with them. And if I wanted to participate, I’d probably be welcome so long as I follow the rules. Unlike r/Conservative, which required proving yourself to the mods to get a pass to enter or something…lol
But yes, it’s definitely good to know what the .ml stands for, and to keep that in mind whenever one sees Lemmy.ml.
