• Beaver @lemmy.ca
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    24 days ago

    I can’t believe the US Navy is scared of bigots.

    I wouldn’t trust them to defend the coasts.

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      24 days ago

      They’re not afraid of bigots. They’re afraid of low recruitment numbers.

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    24 days ago

    “Our research shows us that the pink dollar isn’t as profitable as the bigot dollar. We don’t actually care about anything other than profits.”

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      23 days ago

      Conservatives will paint the can any color that will drive profits, without donating anything to support the cause.

      MAGA will scream and shout about boycotting it.

      The right’s spectrum is the difference between covert and overt bigotry.

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      24 days ago

      Exactly. Nobody should have been giving them money for rainbow shit without looking at who they actually donate to and what they actually support.

      This is still alarming as a bellwether. The Repub domestic terrorism has shut them up.

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        It’s hilarious that this thread accuses them of supporting pride to make money was bad but supporting bigotry for money is also bad.

        It’s such a perfect microcosm of capitalism and popularity. How gatekeeping good deeds and representation through virtue signaling can turn people away and keep your movement from being funded by billion dollar organizations.

  • jeffw@lemmy.world
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    The North Face previously garnered pushback for its “Summer of Pride” event series in 2022 and 2023 in partnership with drag queen Pattiegonia

    I’m sorry, which company partnered with a drag queen named Pattiegonia?

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    They aren’t cowards. They are legally obligated to make more profit for the shareholders. They couldn’t give a rats ass about anything else. Any public company showing “support” for pride is only doing it because they think it will drive more business than they’ll lose. The system is fucked

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      Common misconception. Fiduciary Duty means the Board of Directors has to act in a company’s best interest. It does not mean they legally have to maximize every single profit possibility, short and long-term. Some people feel that improving a company’s reputation or outreach is in its best interest, even if it doesn’t increase profits.

      It’s also important to know that no one has ever been found guilty of failing to fulfill fiduciary duty, and it’s pretty vague. Companies can still do what they want, don’t let them tell you their hands were tied and they had to do [awful, greedy thing that everyone hates]…

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        Tim Cook even famously responded to a right-wing troll during a shareholder meeting asking Apple to commit to only doing profitable things and dropping stuff like making their production climate neutral with "When we work on making our devices accessible by the blind, I don’t consider the bloody ROI.” “If you want me to do things only for ROI reasons, you should get out of this stock.” and somehow he’s still around

        edit: it really pissed them off too haha https://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2014/02/28/tim-cook-to-apple-investors-drop-dead/

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        no one has ever been found guilty of failing to fulfill fiduciary duty

        For as big a deal as is made of this by investment advisors and similar roles, this is shocking to read.

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            Madoff was straight up ponzi scheme fraud, not profit maximisation.

            Enron guys were fraudulently booking future possible revenues as certainties.

            Deliberate illegal misrepresentation is very different from making a (possibly) sub optimal business decision.

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            A quick search suggests Enron and Bernie Madoff are a couple of examples of conviction, but maybe there are nuances I’m not familiar with.

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      They are required to provide a safe working environment. I think this has more to do with that for the companies in the retail space.

      Those that just produce products are all image and can suffer whatever PR backlash they create.

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    TBF it only made anyone mad.

    Many screeched omigodtheyreturningmahkidsgay. Many were annoyed at the blatant pretense at support that did zero actual supporting and just hoped to make a buck. The rest didn’t notice or care.

    I guess pretend support is still better than no support, but I didn’t believe they were genuine or courageous a year ago, so it’s not surprising for them to confirm it.

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    I already told my partner we can’t shop at target anymore because they gave into these fucks. Let me add more to the list.

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    Fucking cowards, this is one reason Im jaded against anyone calling themselves an ally. The slightest pressure and they will turn

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    It’s almost like they have no spine and merely want to cash in on the rainbow-washing.

    Who would have thought?

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      Literally every other meme in June for the last 10 years

      Company in May: ⬛⬜⬛⬜⬛⬜

      Company in June: 🟥🟧🟨🟩🟦🟪

      Company in July: ⬛⬜⬛⬜ ⬛⬜

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      Oh no representation in media but they’re making money off it!

      To be TRULY benevolent you can’t make money from doing good things. Otherwise you go to hel… Or you should feel bad.

      Makking your and others lives better at the same time? That’s just selfishness. You’re working with using others to get ahead!

      No. I want you to be just as miserable as me.

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        Representation in media but not for the money. If you happen to get more sales from it, great. But doing a 180 in response to backlash means that they don’t really care - they just want more money.

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    In other news, threats of violence continue to be used because they’re effective, film at 11.

    Remember, guys. When you’re criticizing companies like Target for this, remember that it’s not the CEOs that have to deal with the fallout on a day-to-day basis. They’re safe in their offices. It’s the teenage cashiers and stock boys that have to bear the brunt of the threats. It’s the rank-and-file employees, who have no say in the matter one way or the other and have no authority to do anything about it. They’re the ones who have to deal with the crazy bastards who come in and start physically tearing things down. The ones who come in screaming and causing a scene. The employees who can’t even do anything about the asshole, especially if he’s uncooperative and refuses to leave. Sure, they could call the cops, who might show up 20 minutes later.

    Yes, these companies should be supporting the LGBT community. But if doing so is literally going to put their rank-and-file employees at risk from violent bigots, I can at least understand why they’re gun-shy. There’s no possible way to stop a bigot from walking into any store and creating havoc to get their point across, and there are far more bigots out there who have already said they’re willing to resort to violence than most people thought.

    Look at it this way: You have a choice to make. You’ve got social media on one side telling you to take choice A because it’s the right choice to make, and some nutjob(s) in your face, physically threatening you with violence until you take choice B. Which one are you going to choose?

    “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.” And everybody has an answer until they’re the ones being threatened.

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      Honestly all this tells me is that peaceful movements and protests are seemingly far less effective than violence. So if the LGBT crowd wants to see change, then their going to have to get violent too.

      I don’t morally agree with it, but it feels hard to deny the realities about it.

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        You may not morally agree but I morally encourage it, make those sonsovbitches bleed. Especially if theyre Seventh Day Adventist affiliates or outright part of.

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        Oh most definitely! Freedom is bought with blood.

        Source: The whole of human history.

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        In general, peaceful protests have been historically way more effective. But if you let the violent bigots get too far, especially into governments, you will have no other choice than to remove them with violence. I don’t think the world is there yet, but if they are enabled further it “soon” will be.

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          Yup. Nothing is worth deciding someone else should get bullied for your decisions. People don’t work retail because they want to deal with culture war problems.

          This isnt life or death. It’s selling rainbow themed products.

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      At first I was going to disagree, but then I thought about it and realized that if they truly gave a fuck, they wouldn’t have let the crybullies win in an attempt to claw back their dollars.