Idk maybe. If conservative media didn’t villainize her and all Democrats for decades with their propaganda, there wouldn’t be a massive influx of brainwashed idiots running around voting against their interests and inviting the dumbest and worst person imaginable to become a dictator of the United States all while wearing American flags.
She did plenty to come off as unlikable and out of touch all on her own. I didn’t vote for Trump but anyone that thought she was a good candidate was delusional.
Didn’t she say something like “can’t we just drone him” in reference to assange?
She also questioned why we would let Palestine have an election without first determining who the winner would be…
Regarding the election, in which Hamas beat Fatah by 74 to 45 seats, Clinton said “I do not think we should have pushed for an election in the Palestinian territories. I think that was a big mistake. And if we were going to push for an election, then we should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win.”
Hillary is/was a terrible candidate and person.
But she’s always claimed the only reason anyone wouldn’t like her is because of conservative propaganda.
She did a lot to get us to the current point where anything except 100% loyalty to the party leads to someone being accused of being a Republican.
Same road republicans went down.
And our standards for Dem candidates has nosedived just like Republicans did. They just have a head start
To be fair, Assange is an annoying cunt who I’d probably drone strike if I could. But I’m just trigger happy these days, so it’s a good thing I don’t have any sort of power.
To sum things up, First, the US should never have gone after him. That was one of many, many wrongs committed by the US.
But The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.
Assange is a rapist. Got to keep that one in mind here. The cases themselves were dropped, but some of the women have said they would still press charges if it were an option. But statute of limitations is in effect.
Another wrong he committed, he released full social security numbers as part of his leaks, multiple times.
As part of not redacting sensitive info, he got multiple Iraqi and Afghani civilians killed, because their names were in the documents he released.
And he was a shitty boss, and a shitty pet owner.
Other things, Assange has been on Russia’s payroll for a while. Wikileaks has never once released anything that makes Putin look bad. They did not host the Panama Papers, and Assange called them an anti-Putin, CIA fabrication.
Now, I’m not saying that the CIA wouldn’t do that. But I will say that I don’t think any three letter agency in the world is competent enough to do so without getting caught at it.
And finally he gave us the Trump presidency.
No, fuck that guy. Probably doesn’t deserve anything more than the prison time he served, but it did deserve prison, especially for the rapes.
If you want actual responsible journalism and document leaks, check out these guys.
“Get over yourself”
Fuck off Hillary
Pretty harsh to blame someone for being born a woman.
I think all the people saying they are voting for her because she is a women and everyone should vote for her or you are a sexist didn’t help.
She just seemed so unlikable and entitled.
Between a twenty year character assassination campaign by conservatives, her terrible personality, and not campaigning in places where it fucking mattered she fucking lost it.
Sure, a twenty year character assassination campain against her created the Bimbo Squad that … character assassinated, intimidated, harassed and blamed Bill’s victims. Republican conspiracy!
No. But “anyone Killary doesn’t like commits suicide bytwo bullets in the back of their head and locks themselves in a suitcase” definitely was. I’m not claiming the shit you said never happened. I also don’t think it stopped a lot of politicians from getting elected. Sure as fuck didn’t stop Bill. The dude she was up against has about the same level of shitbaggery. Didn’t stop him.
Are you such a rabid dog that when you see that last name you lose your shit? Because we’re having a nuanced discussion here. If you can’t comport yourself like an adult please go back to the kids’ table.
I mean apparently America can’t tell Biden and Trump apart so… Yeah “easiest election in history”.
The “undecideds” have always determined who wins the election. UN-DECIDED.
The fact that you and many others choose to INSULT them because they can’t “immediately see” that Biden, even if he appears troublingly in need of at-home care, is a better choice than Trump, shows how entrenched you are in “being right” over “winning.”
How do you convince a person who has yet to reject Trump based on what they’ve heard and seen, yet isn’t sure whether they’ll pick him or Biden, to choose Biden in the voting booth?
Yell at them and call them stupid?
Assholes who have to be cajoled into voting for their own interests are still assholes.
Well when you don’t want to play the “getting elected” game, don’t be surprised when you don’t “get elected”
You know whose fault this is? Trump’s.
There’s a million liberals and leftists who made mistakes. But ultimately, Trump and his supporters are adults and they are the ones most to blame for what they’ve done. Not liking Hillary didn’t force anybody to vote for Trump; that was a choice they made.
I still remember how, as people on the ground in Michigan were seeing it coming and begging for more GOTV volunteers, her campaign flatly refused, instead sending volunteers to Iowa thinking she could win a red state and dunk on Trump. After all, the info on the ground couldn’t be better than their New York polling.
She thought she could just with by being not Trump (which, sure, should have been enough), but decided to not provide anything to vote for, rather than just voting against Trump.
She wins, we still have Roe and a bevy of other positive SCOTUS decisions from a 5-4 liberal court (maybe even 6-3). But she and Ginsburg screwed us over.
Tbh, the people who voted for Trump deserve at least some of the blame. I really do not like this idea that either campaign waved or failed to wave some magic wand to remove the individual agency of voters. The decision to vote for Trump was colossally idiotic, and very easy to not make.
running a bad candidate on the basis of them not being Trump appears to be the Democrat strategy for as long as Trump continues breathing.
“We’re gonna drop a bunch of balloons: act surprised.”
“No, good God, pull it back! Pull it back!!”
Nah, I blame the media. If any mainstream media actually bothered to report seriously on Bernie and especially the turnouts he was pulling at his rallies, we probably would have had more than enough people energized to vote in the primary and the general. Instead, the MSM acted like Bernie wasn’t a real candidate. I stopped supporting NPR after how dirty they did him.
Worst of all, they acted like trump was a real candidate, and handed him the unlimited exposure he needed to build a cult.
That’s not true. You don’t need any media exposure at all to build a cult. Cults are small. No, they gave him the media exposure he needed to build a religion. A big one. Much more dangerous.
I’m not sure any other election had so much foreign interference, so maybe not as easy as you think.
Even if this is true, why is it okay for amerikkka to interfere in foreign elections, but not okay for foreign governments to interfere in amerikkkan “elections”?
US foreign policy sucks, so you don’t get to complain when other foreign policies negatively impact you 😡
It’s never a neoliberal’s fault when they lose.
Yup. Hillary is too corrupt. Had Biden ran instead, he would have won back then when he wasn’t senile.
Certainly some of the time it isn’t.
Except about Julian Assange
She did win the popular vote, by millions. But the good ol’ I Wanna Keep Mah Slaves Electoral College handed it to an overgrown 10 year old.
And the millions sat silent mumbling under their nose that they didn’t vote hard enough.
If you’re still talking about Clinton, you’re why we got Trump instead of Sanders and I hate you for it.
Nah. Hillary Clinton ermh how do I put this. Destabilized Libya @_@ which was pretty much a “first world country” before she touched it. For some reason. IE, the Petrodollar. rolls eyes something gold to oil something Gadaffi. Something something “we came, we looked, he died” or something. IDGAF anymore
Justice for vilerat.