I don’t think it was a particularly easy election. A majority of the people I know (which isn’t much admittedly) protest voted. Most thought her win was inevitable. I bet my friend in February that If it was Drumpf/Clinton, Drumpf would win. If so many people didn’t feel burned by her being picked over Sanders, she would have won electoral and popular.
Fuck all of you that think that Trump committed voter fraud only in 2020.
The reason she lost was that Trump cheated in the 2016 election, too.
That was why the world was stunned. Because the results were phony.
mmhmm I’m sure it had absolutely nothing to do with her terrible voter turnout
Which I’m sure had absolutely nothing to do with her sketchy performance under Obama.
And I’m sure not a single Democrat cared that the DNC went around saying “screw the primary we already chose our candidate” during the scam of a primary.
She still won the popular vote by millions. The thing is though, the electoral college is a relic that needs an overhaul at best, and that’s problematic for a lot of reasons. I largely agree with you though.
She wasn’t right about a lot of things, specially relating to the Middle East. Misguided at best, malicious at worst when it comes to the Middle East.
At this point anyone relitigating 2016 is fart sniffing. Nobody cares that you hate Clinton and nobody cares if you love her. Nothing good can possibly come from picking that scab over and over again, so either just move on, or preferably, put that energy into something productive, like community outreach, organizing or local politics.
She did win the popular vote, by millions. But the good ol’ I Wanna Keep Mah Slaves Electoral College handed it to an overgrown 10 year old.
And the millions sat silent mumbling under their nose that they didn’t vote hard enough.
I’m not sure any other election had so much foreign interference, so maybe not as easy as you think.
Even if this is true, why is it okay for amerikkka to interfere in foreign elections, but not okay for foreign governments to interfere in amerikkkan “elections”?
It’s never a neoliberal’s fault when they lose.
Certainly some of the time it isn’t.
Yup. Hillary is too corrupt. Had Biden ran instead, he would have won back then when he wasn’t senile.
Except about Julian Assange
I still remember how, as people on the ground in Michigan were seeing it coming and begging for more GOTV volunteers, her campaign flatly refused, instead sending volunteers to Iowa thinking she could win a red state and dunk on Trump. After all, the info on the ground couldn’t be better than their New York polling.
She thought she could just with by being not Trump (which, sure, should have been enough), but decided to not provide anything to vote for, rather than just voting against Trump.
She wins, we still have Roe and a bevy of other positive SCOTUS decisions from a 5-4 liberal court (maybe even 6-3). But she and Ginsburg screwed us over.
Tbh, the people who voted for Trump deserve at least some of the blame. I really do not like this idea that either campaign waved or failed to wave some magic wand to remove the individual agency of voters. The decision to vote for Trump was colossally idiotic, and very easy to not make.
running a bad candidate on the basis of them not being Trump appears to be the Democrat strategy for as long as Trump continues breathing.
Idk maybe. If conservative media didn’t villainize her and all Democrats for decades with their propaganda, there wouldn’t be a massive influx of brainwashed idiots running around voting against their interests and inviting the dumbest and worst person imaginable to become a dictator of the United States all while wearing American flags.
She did plenty to come off as unlikable and out of touch all on her own. I didn’t vote for Trump but anyone that thought she was a good candidate was delusional.
“Get over yourself”
Fuck off Hillary
I mean… I voted for her… I tried to convince others. I’m cognisant of the media, Russia, the DNC…
She also kinda forgot to campaign the rust belt and took for granted the folks on main St that didn’t bounce back with wall st, yet “took a risk on a black guy” and got burned by “intellectual corporate Democrats”
She never set foot in states she didn’t have to lose and it felt like Michael Moore was the only watching in real time with me.
Didn’t she say something like “can’t we just drone him” in reference to assange?
She also questioned why we would let Palestine have an election without first determining who the winner would be…
Regarding the election, in which Hamas beat Fatah by 74 to 45 seats, Clinton said “I do not think we should have pushed for an election in the Palestinian territories. I think that was a big mistake. And if we were going to push for an election, then we should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win.”
Hillary is/was a terrible candidate and person.
But she’s always claimed the only reason anyone wouldn’t like her is because of conservative propaganda.
She did a lot to get us to the current point where anything except 100% loyalty to the party leads to someone being accused of being a Republican.
Same road republicans went down.
And our standards for Dem candidates has nosedived just like Republicans did. They just have a head start
To be fair, Assange is an annoying cunt who I’d probably drone strike if I could. But I’m just trigger happy these days, so it’s a good thing I don’t have any sort of power.
To sum things up, First, the US should never have gone after him. That was one of many, many wrongs committed by the US.
But The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.
Assange is a rapist. Got to keep that one in mind here. The cases themselves were dropped, but some of the women have said they would still press charges if it were an option. But statute of limitations is in effect.
Another wrong he committed, he released full social security numbers as part of his leaks, multiple times.
As part of not redacting sensitive info, he got multiple Iraqi and Afghani civilians killed, because their names were in the documents he released.
And he was a shitty boss, and a shitty pet owner.
Other things, Assange has been on Russia’s payroll for a while. Wikileaks has never once released anything that makes Putin look bad. They did not host the Panama Papers, and Assange called them an anti-Putin, CIA fabrication.
Now, I’m not saying that the CIA wouldn’t do that. But I will say that I don’t think any three letter agency in the world is competent enough to do so without getting caught at it.
And finally he gave us the Trump presidency.
No, fuck that guy. Probably doesn’t deserve anything more than the prison time he served, but it did deserve prison, especially for the rapes.
If you want actual responsible journalism and document leaks, check out these guys.
Go away Hillary.
How did she hurt you?
She gave us 4 years of Donald Trump.
I mean apparently America can’t tell Biden and Trump apart so… Yeah “easiest election in history”.
The “undecideds” have always determined who wins the election. UN-DECIDED.
The fact that you and many others choose to INSULT them because they can’t “immediately see” that Biden, even if he appears troublingly in need of at-home care, is a better choice than Trump, shows how entrenched you are in “being right” over “winning.”
How do you convince a person who has yet to reject Trump based on what they’ve heard and seen, yet isn’t sure whether they’ll pick him or Biden, to choose Biden in the voting booth?
Yell at them and call them stupid?
Assholes who have to be cajoled into voting for their own interests are still assholes.
Well when you don’t want to play the “getting elected” game, don’t be surprised when you don’t “get elected”
