A lot of the problems we’re facing are not something we can wait on. Climate change is already going to effectively change our life to an unrecognizable extent, even with a Democrat is charge.
Perhaps too many people have grown comforted by the inevitable. I’m still a little panicked, and it doesn’t seem like anyone’s doing anything to stop it.
A lot of the problems we’re facing are not something we can wait on. Climate change is already going to effectively change our life to an unrecognizable extent,
Then it is a good thing Biden rules and Convicted Felon Treason Trump drools in his diaper.
Did I say we can wait on them? No. I said change takes time. And it does. Can we go out and ask everyone on the planet/US to change out their car for an EV tomorrow? No we can’t. Things take time. Sounds like you should have beef with the people that protested voted against Jimmy Carter, against Gore, and against Hillary. We should have moved the needle a long time ago.
And there are still other items to be worked on that people demand, like student debt, the economy, unions, chips act, ukraine, etc. Things take time.
Why are you talking about things taking time as if we’re slowly progressing in the right direction? Hell no, we’ve been moving in the direction of more gas powered truck and SUV sales, more gas production, more highways, all of it promoted by democrats.
First the entire context was “How was Biden worse than expected?” to which I answered that some people think everything can happen on a dime, which they can’t because they take time.
As for EV incentives, China has been dominating with EV adoption lately with affordable options. Theyve got a damn 11k brand new EV that is so enticing, the US and EU are banning it from import because it would be too successful here.
Ahh the “not enough!”, aka “not fast enough!” You want more? Then vote Dems in consistently and overwhelmingly.
And then the “it’s not changing fast enough!”. You do realize those are private purchases right? The government can’t mandate what people buy.
And then the China tariff. Like it it not they’re going to protect American industry from low wage made cars.
So we’re basically back to, congrats you just showed you’re exactly the “not fast enough!” person. And we are moving in the right direction with, well everything I already listed. You want to move faster? Give Dems overwhelming and consistent victories.
I really think you’re missing the point. Not fast enough is not good enough when we’re talking about climate change! Yes, we had to take drastic actions yesterday, and the best thing we can do is take drastic actions today. We’re just kicking the can down the road, and I don’t think there’s any road left.
My entire point is that there are certain categories of things in which you do not have time to act, and you must do it quickly and firmly.
No I’m not missing the point. I want it to be done fast, I know that things take time. Saying “not fast enough” is not a valid complaint of Biden or of Dems because the reality of the world is that things take time. And the reality whether you like it or it not, climate change is not even a winning issue. People rank issues as 1 economy 2 inflation 3 in distant third place abortion.
But back to this topic, I really wonder what industry you work in that you think we can flip a switch and the world changes.
Think about this. Want to build a new metro line? Good idea right, it’ll reduce car usage. From the day you say “here’s money, go”, it will take minimum 4 years, more likely minimum 6 years. For a single line. Then you have the other guy complaining “but there are still car sales”. No fucking shit, it’s not built yet. Things take time whether you like it or not.
Stagnation (or regression) takes fuck all. It takes fuck all effort to block things. The GOP can do that with control of only one of the 3 (house, senate, presidency). Which they’ve had for 20 of the last 24 years.
It takes fuck all effort to block things. The GOP can do that with control of only one of the 3 (house, senate, presidency). Which they’ve had for 20 of the last 24 years.
That goes both ways, and yet we’ve seen Republicans pass all kinds of vile legislation in that time. If “it takes fuck all effort to block things” then why aren’t Democrats doing that too?
What the GOP wants is lack of progress. They want to hit the giant pause button on society. That’s why the GOP benefits more from blocking things. What the Dems want is actual progress - new bills, new laws, new measures. That requires legislation to actually pass. So no, it doesn’t work both ways.
The most the GOP wants to do is repeal what was already passed, and give tax breaks. It takes fuck all effort to do that. They get one house and they can demand tax breaks or they shut down the government. Or they try to repeal the ACA. They didn’t write a well thought out replacement lol, all they want to do is repeal.
To actually write and pass progressive legislation takes a ton of actual work, effort, support, and time. And all 3 houses to pass it.
Some people think the entire world and everything in it can be changed on a dime. I have to constantly tell people things take time.
A lot of the problems we’re facing are not something we can wait on. Climate change is already going to effectively change our life to an unrecognizable extent, even with a Democrat is charge.
Perhaps too many people have grown comforted by the inevitable. I’m still a little panicked, and it doesn’t seem like anyone’s doing anything to stop it.
Then it is a good thing Biden rules and Convicted Felon Treason Trump drools in his diaper.
Did I say we can wait on them? No. I said change takes time. And it does. Can we go out and ask everyone on the planet/US to change out their car for an EV tomorrow? No we can’t. Things take time. Sounds like you should have beef with the people that protested voted against Jimmy Carter, against Gore, and against Hillary. We should have moved the needle a long time ago.
And there are still other items to be worked on that people demand, like student debt, the economy, unions, chips act, ukraine, etc. Things take time.
Why are you talking about things taking time as if we’re slowly progressing in the right direction? Hell no, we’ve been moving in the direction of more gas powered truck and SUV sales, more gas production, more highways, all of it promoted by democrats.
First the entire context was “How was Biden worse than expected?” to which I answered that some people think everything can happen on a dime, which they can’t because they take time.
Second, we are moving in the right direction. Unprecedented green energy policies, EV incentives, charging infrastructure, pretty sure there was stuff for train building, quick googling says $20.5 Billion for transit funding https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/biden-harris-administration-provide-205-billion-federal-funding-support-transit. Congrats, you showed you are the exact person that thinks the world can all change on a dime.
And some 20 times more than that is going to highways
Meanwhile, gas guzzling SUV sales have skyrocketed recently https://www.theautopian.com/heres-the-exact-year-suv-sales-overtook-sedan-sales-in-america/
As for EV incentives, China has been dominating with EV adoption lately with affordable options. Theyve got a damn 11k brand new EV that is so enticing, the US and EU are banning it from import because it would be too successful here.
Ahh the “not enough!”, aka “not fast enough!” You want more? Then vote Dems in consistently and overwhelmingly.
And then the “it’s not changing fast enough!”. You do realize those are private purchases right? The government can’t mandate what people buy.
And then the China tariff. Like it it not they’re going to protect American industry from low wage made cars.
So we’re basically back to, congrats you just showed you’re exactly the “not fast enough!” person. And we are moving in the right direction with, well everything I already listed. You want to move faster? Give Dems overwhelming and consistent victories.
I really think you’re missing the point. Not fast enough is not good enough when we’re talking about climate change! Yes, we had to take drastic actions yesterday, and the best thing we can do is take drastic actions today. We’re just kicking the can down the road, and I don’t think there’s any road left.
My entire point is that there are certain categories of things in which you do not have time to act, and you must do it quickly and firmly.
No I’m not missing the point. I want it to be done fast, I know that things take time. Saying “not fast enough” is not a valid complaint of Biden or of Dems because the reality of the world is that things take time. And the reality whether you like it or it not, climate change is not even a winning issue. People rank issues as 1 economy 2 inflation 3 in distant third place abortion.
But back to this topic, I really wonder what industry you work in that you think we can flip a switch and the world changes.
Think about this. Want to build a new metro line? Good idea right, it’ll reduce car usage. From the day you say “here’s money, go”, it will take minimum 4 years, more likely minimum 6 years. For a single line. Then you have the other guy complaining “but there are still car sales”. No fucking shit, it’s not built yet. Things take time whether you like it or not.
So which is it? Other people are saying that if Trump gets reelected, democracy will end instantly.
Seems like “things take time” only when neoliberal Democrats get criticized for their shitty policy.
Progress takes time, effort, and hard work.
Stagnation (or regression) takes fuck all. It takes fuck all effort to block things. The GOP can do that with control of only one of the 3 (house, senate, presidency). Which they’ve had for 20 of the last 24 years.
That goes both ways, and yet we’ve seen Republicans pass all kinds of vile legislation in that time. If “it takes fuck all effort to block things” then why aren’t Democrats doing that too?
What the GOP wants is lack of progress. They want to hit the giant pause button on society. That’s why the GOP benefits more from blocking things. What the Dems want is actual progress - new bills, new laws, new measures. That requires legislation to actually pass. So no, it doesn’t work both ways.
The most the GOP wants to do is repeal what was already passed, and give tax breaks. It takes fuck all effort to do that. They get one house and they can demand tax breaks or they shut down the government. Or they try to repeal the ACA. They didn’t write a well thought out replacement lol, all they want to do is repeal.
To actually write and pass progressive legislation takes a ton of actual work, effort, support, and time. And all 3 houses to pass it.