• redballooon@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Really? What we have in the news these days is published by the conflict parties, independent verification is almost never possible.

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      8 months ago

      I don’t need the exact numbers to know how bad the situation is. I have a couple of questions for you:

      • Do you agree that the civilian casualties on the Palestinian side far exceed those on the Israeli part?
      • Do you agree that a large chunk of the population in Gaza is displaced and currently living in makeshift tents?
      • Do you agree that there is an ongoing humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza?
      • Do you agree that there is increased violence and imposed restrictions in the West bank by the IDF, and that far right settlers are persecuting Palestinians and killing them.
      • Weren’t there members of the Israeli parliament calling for nuking Gaza, to do the same in the West Bank, etc?
      • What about illegal settlements, land grab, numerous human rights violations, etc.

      I also want Hamas gone, but don’t think this is the way.

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        8 months ago

        Yes, there is all that. As I said, I think Netanyahu and his bunch belong in jail, not in power.

        But even if this guy is out of the way, here’s a few more questions to consider:

        • Do you agree that after Oct 7th, Israels strategy of building a wall and an “iron dome” must be considered totally failed?
        • Do you agree that the Hamas can not be talked with?
        • Do you agree that in addition to the Hamas, Israel is surrounded by militant groups that want to erase the state from the map?
        • Do you agree that in the past no palestinean negotiator honestly considered a 2-state-solution?

        What are, positively speaking, Israels options? What should a moderate follower of Netanyahu do to achieve some sort of piece? I’m lost here. Do you have any ideas other than saying “not this way”?