• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    something that more than 99.9999% of people are likely unaware of?

    Western liberals aren’t aware of it because they’ve segregated themselves off from the folks in their community most subject to political prisoners.

    But then lots of Western Liberals clap and cheer when an anarchist group gets raided by the police and dragged off to prison.

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        Liberals aren’t on the left, it only seems that way to you because you percieve yourself as left yet support the status quo.

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          Shut up with that divisive BS. I never said I was liberal, I’m a democratic socialist. You’re clearly an authoritarian trying to divide us by starting arguments with your sockpuppet accounts. Nobody with half a brain is falling for it.

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            Holy moly, lmao. No, I am not a sockpuppet, nor am I an authoritarian. What in the world scratched you so much?

            Also, all Socialism is democratic, do you mean you’re a reformist, or support Scandinavian style Social Democracy?

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                Liberal is defined as being a supporter of liberalism.

                Liberalism is the dominant ideology in much of the world, which believes in Private Property Rights and thus supports the Capitalist Status Quo.

                Liberalism was considered “left” during the French Revolution, against the Monarchy, but is now a right wing ideology as opposed to Socialism.

                It doesn’t take being a “tankie” to know what Liberalism is, lmao. Definitely not a sockpuppet and certainly not susceptible to misinformation, you just generally are ill-informed and violently upset.

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                  It’s not just a question of property rights though. There’s a ton of other things liberals believe in, including democracy, equality, freedom of speech, etc, all of which are categorically left wing.

                  Just because you disagree with one part of their philosophy doesn’t mean you should attack them. It’s divisive and hurts our chance (people on the left) of ever having a majority.

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                    You defined Liberalism as simply “being on the left.” This is untrue, it’s a Capitalist ideology and therefore at minimum on the right. Liberalism may claim to be in favor of free speech and equality, but the fact that wealthy people control speech and inherently create class society proves this hollow.

                    I do disagree with Capitalism, I am a Socialist. Liberalism should be attacked. Leftism will become the majority as Capitalism continues to decline worldwide and inequality continues to skyrocket, individuals being “nicer” about spreading theory will not speed this process up. That belief is Utopianism.

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          He is literally quoted as saying that was his goal, so I have to assume your post is not sarcasm.

          It means that when white people are evenly divided, and black people have a bloc of votes of their own, it is left up to them to determine who’s going to sit in the White House and who’s going to be in the dog house.

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        Just gonna piggyback on that malcom x comment and say “yeah, I’m real sure mlk was trying to divide the left.”

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        The Black Panthers were notable, back in the 1970s, with their leaders either arrested on phony charges or killed in police raids.

        Occupy Wall Street members were routinely subjected to arrest and detention in the wake of the '08 Recession.

        Wikileaks was another big one in the early '10s, with its major contributors and journalists all arrested or forced into hiding.

        The Black Lives Matter movement had many of its early leaders jailed or killed, before the various social media organizing tags were hijacked by online media personalities.

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          The Black Panthers were explicitly Marxist-Leninist. There were probably some Anarchist members, but the party line was ML.

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      Sounds like you’re just blaming people for not being as smart and enlightened as you because you’re so special you knew about an obscure day that almost nobody outside your usual bubble has heard of.

      You could have actually brought awareness to that fact, but you decided to be a petulant clown instead. Bravo.