!asklemmy@lemmy.ml - ARE YOU A TANKIE? - informal poll results ~
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A ridiculous question. “Tankie” isn’t a term anyone self-identifies with, it’s mostly a term used by liberals to hurl at anyone to the left of them or anyone who agrees with western foreign policy. The survey results will be as meaningless as the term “tankie” itself.
Image description: A5 page, with various pie charts and text, indicating the results of an informal poll from lemmy.ml, full image text in spoiler
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ARE TANKIES TAKING CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML ??
DOES THE WORK FOR YOU!!
WE ASKED !asklemmy@lemmy.ml ARE YOU A TANKIE?
First stack of pie charts shows the yes / no split, highlights that the lemmy.ml yes responses made up less than half of the yes votes, hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml only made up a small portion, some hexbear-ians even vote no
second and third pie charts show the yes votes, and no votes by instance respectively
third stacked pie chart shows the yes / no split by instance, overlay-ed with the total yes / no votes
only top level comments were counted
tankies are closer than they appear
Deeply unserious
NDTS
full results / data
COUNTA of yes
@lemmy.ml = 10
@lemmygrad.ml = 5
@lemmy.world = 3
@lemmy.zip = 1
@hexbear.net = 3
@lemmy.sdf.org = 1
@lemmy.one = 1
Grand Total = 24
COUNTA of no
@lemmy.ml = 2
@lemm.ee = 2
@lemmy.world = 8
@lemmy.blahaj.zone = 1
@reddthat.com = 1
@ttrpg.network = 1
@hexbear.net = 4
@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl = 1
Grand Total = 20
taken from archived post https://archive.md/AAY1L
this was fun, thanks for the polling idea, Kristina (I spent too long on these charts because yours looked so spiffy, I hope you specifically are impressed lol), solidarity cleaning that data up, and general reminder people only half read anything before launching into a diatribe
tl:dr yes, tankies are totally conspiring to make sure you have a bad time on lemmy.ml
Weird comparison. Someone who is authoritarian to a degree he sees using the army (tanks) against the own civilian population as a valid and legitimate action.
Serious question; does this include for example supporters of Israel today? Would someone who supported US action in Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan be a tankie?
edit: I just noticed “own civilian population” in your comment? Is the implication that you’re not a tankie if you’re only murdering innocent foreigners? Ironically the term ‘tankie’ was coined when Khrushchev sent soviet tanks to Hungary so were the original tankies not actually tankies?
The Soviet satellites weren’t actually independent by definition. That definition might need a little work but the gist is fine.
Neither was South Korea or South Vietnam, so I’m sticking with calling the US a tankie state.
I guess this is because they were allies and the east block was more closely related to each other then most States today. But you are not saying that to really make a point, because you already knew that, don’t you? You are just choosing facts which prove your presupposed fact, not the other way around don’t you?
I just think it’s funny that capitalist states like the US or Israel fit your definition equally as well if not more so than socialist states like the USSR or the PRC. Can you not appreciate how that waters down your definition to the point of uselessness?
If you want a more accurate definition, just say “tankies” are Marxist-Leninists or supporters of AES countries. At least that makes sense and is specific. Less critical and derogatory though, which I suppose goes against the intention of the term.
“Hmm can’t fool me Ivan, you’re just presenting facts that prove your point and make me look foolish, aren’t you?”
The dastardly tankie strategy of knowing what you’re talking about before you start talking about it.
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Yeah, a bunch of people misuse both ‘woke’ and ‘tankie’ as just insults so both seem to lose meaning. Especially with politically charged words, I think leftists have a knee jerk reaction to being mislabeled a tankie and come to the conclusion that it is meaningless and not just misused.
Thr word tankie even has a wiki page
I think it’s a useful term, saying authoritarian communist is just too wordy.