That’s what I’ve been waiting for
He totally is too old, though. Bill Clinton is younger than him.
Weird fact: Clinton, Bush Jr. and Trump were all born in 1946. For some reason there’s a clustering of president birth years. 1913 and 1924 were also popular.
Hmm, what could be the connection? It’s almost as if there was a “boom” of babies born 9 months after WW2 ended.
The peak year for the baby boom was 1947, not 1946. In 1947 there were 26.6 births per 1000 population, in 1946 it was 24.1. But, even though the baby boom was a noticeable change in birth rate, it wasn’t actually all that dramatic. In the depths of WWII in 1943 the birth rate was 22.7. In 1965 when the baby boom was over, it had only dropped to 19.4.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/NCHS-Births-and-General-Fertility-Rates-United-Sta/e6fc-ccez/data_preview
There’s no reason that there should be a cluster of presidents born in 1946 rather than a few spread around the post-war years.
I know you’re citing this per 1k like they would in statistics but also want to point out that with the population increase between 1946 and 1965, more babies were actually born in 1965 than 1946.
I bet they were both a year earlier than the statistics because they come from wealthy families, so they already had established homes, jobs, etc, while most people were still recovering from ww2. Having a baby right after the end of the war had to be either a luxury or a poverty sentence.
I think a factor would also be post-way medical/life improvements that led to decreased infant mortality as well as longer “boomer” lifespans.
More of them lived, and for longer
Sure, slightly more for slightly longer. You’d expect a few percent more Boomers than others, but not a cluster of 3 presidents born in exactly 1946. And there’s no reason why there was only ever 1 silent generation president. There were a ton of “greatest” generation guys, and lots of boomers, but only 1 born between 1928 to 1945.
He is though!!! That’s why I’m excited about Harris! She’s only 59!
We just need a maximum age for running for president. Id like my president’s to be of a normal working age. If you’re going to be over 65 by the end of the term then that’s too old imo since they would be older than 5/6 of the population.
Agreed. I am sick and tired of this country being run by workaholics. I want to retire some day. I want a candidate who shares that value, and is motivated to build and promote an economic, legal, and political environment where people can actually retire.
That means a first-time candidate should be no older than 57, and an incumbent no older than 61.
Kamala would be over 65 by term 2’s end. I think 70 is a good number but honestly I overwhelmingly agree with the sentiment. Make the max age lower and the right candidates will “magically” appear. The pecking order today sadly includes people in their 60s and 70s because we almost never elect different people for house/senate.
we almost never elect different people for house/senate.
Which is because of how we pick committee positions. People with longer tenures get better spots.
I figured it was more about how people essentially ignore senate and house positions unless someone is retiring. They just vote the same way again and again.
All people talk about by and large is the presidential election. I know very few people who know anything about federal senate and house reps, let alone anything at all about state senate and house reps. They think presidents decide everything when what’s really broken is congress. If congress wasn’t f’d they could fix the supreme court. If they fixed the supreme court then dictatorial law (and draconian interpretations of law) would change.
In terms of committees, I figured the people who got the coveted ways and means spots were the ones with the most power and influence (money), not just old timers. Jason Smith is the chair of the house ways and means committee and he’s only 44. Senate side is over 70, though senators on average are much older than those in the house of reps.
Maybe it was the way I worded my comment before, but I got downvoted for criticising that too many politicians are too old to still be in office. I got response from someone that age shouldn’t matter if the person is competent.
Then it occurred to me that maybe it was boomers who downvoted me for hitting a nerve. And I should have responded that if there is minium required age to become POTUS, why shouldn’t there be a maximum age?
That being said, it also occurred to me that there is ageism against younger people in politics. The voting age in many places do not want to be lowered as youths are told to be too immature to vote. But how come no one says old people are too old and senile to vote? I don’t mean to go into old vs young people mudslinging, but old people have elected representatives that only benefit their own demographic and not for everyone in the country. One reason for the housing crisis is that old people elect politicians who do not want to build more affordable housing so as not to devalue their property.
Voting rights aren’t handed out because of pragmatic reasons, but because of fundamental principals.You don’t get to vote because you’re able to make good decisions, you get to vote because you’re a human citizen of a particular country and on that basis alone you get to vote. It would be very difficult to objectively determine who is able to make good decisions. And even it that were possible, it would be difficult to decide where to draw the line. Of course that children don’t get to vote is completely inconsistent and the age that makes the difference is completely arbitrary. But to be honest, I’d much rather allow children of all ages to vote than restrict people beyond a certain age. Check out some Noam Chomsky interview of recent years, would it really be fair if such a bright mind was not allowed to vote?
Noam Chomsky is actually a really good example. Same with some practicing MDs I’ve known. Some of them work into their 80s or so as well. Why would we stupidly remove wisdom from our political set? That’s just dumb, IMHO.
I think the problem is that the PFC is often not fully formed, on average, until 25. I still think people as young as 16 should be allowed to vote, though. However, on the other end, I don’t think arbitrary years is worth anything (and will be increasingly worthless with time as medicine continues to change the game - imagine nootropics and life extension) - the important thing is mental acuity for the job, no matter the age. If someone wants to run for office and they are 250 (assuming for the moment life extension/age slowing/age reversal becomes everyday), I shouldn’t care. What I should care about is their ability to do the job. Ideally, we’d even be able to screen out psychopaths and other troublesome traits, but give it time, I guess.
If there’s anyway to convince him not to run that’d be wonderful. There are many Maga folks that emulate him but I don’t think they’re nearly as likely to be able to actually pull off a coup.
Granted, it’s a fucking long shot that he’d listen to anyone.
Trump only listens to people who tell him what he wants to hear.
How do you remove a cult leader like that?
Usually cuffs or a bullet
I suspect he’ll die out of prison in a natural manner, but relatively soon. Prison is out of the question without the court getting members added. They are fully on the Trump train and even the plain text of the constitution doesn’t sway them.
Convicted felon, didn’t get cuffs
Got shot, still grifting.
Needs to be nuked from orbit, just to be sure
Fuckin’ A
Kinetic strike, please. Similar fire effect, but no radiation (assuming you’re not yeeting depleted uranium).
Colony drop.
lol, how the turn tables.
Sleepy Don
Such low energy.
Doesn’t he look tired?
Tbh, as a non-American meme-connoisseur, I kind of want Trump to win again, because, well, of the memes, and his idio(cray)cy. I mean, it would do with the world economy what my wife did to me last night, and it would hurt, and most would cry, but we would have some fun.
What a shitpost mate. Maybe for you it’s about the memes. Sure is not for the American people.
Tbh, as an American, fuck off. The Nazi uniforms looked nice that does not mean I want to see more made.
It feels like the Germans are close enough that they start making them again.
I get you as a fellow meme connoisseur, but under some exceptional circumstances da memes come second.
Not just Dems saying it. Everyone is saying it.
Many people are saying it! 👐 The best people 👋 they come up to me ☝️and say, they say 👐 Mr Mad Caesar, 🤚with tears in their eyes, Mr Caesar, Trump 🍊 is just too old to be president! 👐
I’m visualizing Cartman saying this
Yeah, these ads almost write themselves. Show clips of right-wingers describing Biden as old and senile, then splice in clips of Trump rambling incoherently. The entire Trump campaign has been built around attacking Biden, so there will probably be a lot of tangential benefits of switching to Harris.
Ooof, I hadn’t even thought about this possibility! They could splice up some absolutely wild ads of Trump surrogates appearing to criticize Trump for being too old and senile!
Yeah, they would probably have to make it clear that they were originally talking about Biden, otherwise I think that’s fraud, but basically how I would do it.
Narrator: What did some [some Republican chud] think about Biden?
Republican Chud: You can’t have a senile, 80 year old grandpa leading the country!
-smash-cut to Trump-
Trump: Now all I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that’s the end of the magnets. Why didn’t they use John Deere? Why didn’t they bring in the John Deere people? Do you like John Deere? I like John Deere.
Narrator: Sounds like [some Republican chud] was right!
The racist rapist, Dementia Don with 34 felonies needs to drop out, he’s too old and can’t even complete a coherent sentence.
Diaper Donny, who appeared on epsteins flight log more than 100 times.
He can’t even complete his prison sentences.
Hasn’t had any prison sentences to complete yet. Dude is like Teflon. He’s just a toxin that builds up everywhere, can’t be destroyed, and causes cancer.
Karma bats 1000, he’ll get his. I bet he’s having a real hard time sleeping knowing that if he doesn’t win, he’s very likely going to fucking jail. The ploy to get Biden to drop out seems to have backfired massively on him too.
Not to be pessimistic, but karma bats 1000? No it doesn’t. So many terrible people died rich and accomplished. He’ll, Kissinger died at 100, still trying to be a part of politics giving advice etc.
Imagine if dems pick an older candidate.
Jimmy Carter is eligible for one more term
Lol… I know it’s a joke, but boomers would lose their collective minds. They hate Jimmy Carter because they all bought the Reagan propaganda hook, line and sinker.
Bitch so old he interned for Mussolini.
You joke, and he would have been too young, but Trump and Mussolini were actually living at the same time for a brief period.
He also would have been down with Mussolini, had he been old enough.
So old he was mussolinis Barber
He should intern for mausoleum instead.
“The first party to retire its 80-year old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election.”
— Nikki Haley, in January.
BTW, I think it would be good for Dems to always call Trump 80. It will be a good irritation for Republicans
Just go with 92, it’s 45+47, and start marking up the 45-47 signs with a plus.
I’ve been getting down voted for saying it for a year…
But yeah, trump doesn’t stand a fucking chance now. Also, this is probably the only way to get people excited about Kamala.
2028 better be a real primary or we just kicked the can down the road.
Harris still has a lot of animosity towards her from her time as a prosecutor, but I’m thinking she’s at least a better candidate than biden. The expected republican attacks of “she’s black” and “she’s a woman” probably won’t sway anyone as much as “Joe Biden personally shoots Palestinian kids.”
She’ll be fine.
Moderates like her already, and as someone who’s had to vote Hillary and Joe in the last two elections…
It’s easier for progressives to hold their nose when they have the benefit of the doubt about how bad the candidate is.
We’re fucking fighting fascism bro, her being a DA might even be a good thing if she’s actually down to fight fascists. Don’t forget before McCarthyism we had capitalists allying with communists to fight fascism.
Hell, if she pulls a “I know the system, I know it needs fixed, and I look forward to being president so it can be fixed” would guarantee she’s the next prez.
It doesn’t take much, we’rre just coming off the two worst Dem candidates in modern history, and still got a trump hangover from his term. So Kamala would have to really fuck shit up to lose.
Ughhh I am NOT looking forward to the racist pieces of shit who will go on and on now about “SEE! Democrats won’t even let you pick a candidate, they have to shove their DEI applicant down our throats!”
That aspect is going to be ugly, but I don’t worry that it will affect the results too much. The hardcore racist sexist folk never voted Dem anyway.
Yup. If that’s the worst they got, she’s in a pretty good place. Not like we haven’t heard it all before.
You know it will probably be either the Harris reelection effort, or no election due to complications from Trumpitis
Harris against Trump Jr. and they will claim Harris is too old.
Damn, I just found out Kamala is almost 60…
I don’t know why I thought Biden would have picked someone young enough to be president after him.
Should have gotten one of the “kids” in their 40s.
We need to stop running elderly people, if Biden had done two and she did two after, she’d be in her 70s too
We’re stuck in this situation where we demand “experience” but the people holding the spots that count for “experience” are decades past retirement age.
Almost 60 is fine. She’s still got the majority of her mental faculties that she had at her peak. Low chance of her just randomly kicking over at any given time unlike the two candidates we had in this election until yesterday.
Almost 60 is fine.
It is.
But if Biden did a second term, she’d be 64.
And 72 at the end of her two terms.
Which is why I’m saying Biden should have picked a you Obama type who’s a decade younger for VP.
Instead of someone who would be in their 70s if everything went to plan.
Even if she would serve two terms in a row, she would still only be 67 by the time shes finished, so thats still way younger than what Trump or Biden have been during their terms.
Right.
But apparently Biden always intended to run twice, making her 71 at the end of her second term…
But 67 is still too old for lots of people. And above everything thing else the presidency is a popularity contest.
Younger candidates like Obama and Bill get more votes, which carries down ballot races, and let’s us get the House and Senate so the president can get shit done.
I Don’t follow. In your example Biden would have served as president while 85. 71 is a problem in this logic how?
Gotta keep the pressure up.
Make her promise to an open and fair 2028 primary before the 2024 election.
None of this wishwashy shit where everyone close to Biden promise it’s a one turn thing, but the candidate doesn’t understand how shitty of a candidate they are.
Kamala’s gonna win because she’s not trump. Not because she’s what Dem voters want.
lol, politicians and promises.
Have we seen his birth certificate?! Maybe he actually is 80…
Many people are saying it - Is Trump too old for the Presidency? I hear it all the time from fine folks. Shouldn’t we answer these folks? All we need to see if the birth certificate. Maybe Trump is younger then actually says. We don’t know. Many people asking questions.
