Of course he’s afraid to debate Kamala. She’s a prosecutor and he’s a convicted felon.
Lmao which one of you mouth breathers is downvote on this?
I likely up/downvote comments by accident with my fat-fingers.
Weren’t lemmy votes public btw? At least for every instance admin…?
Ah, fair play, kinda easy to do on accident
10h later it is still just a single downvote.
Don’t turn off the mics on this debate. Ignore the host. Let Dementia Donnie gas himself out. Let Harris interrogate him of his crimes and put it in public. I wanna see how long he can kee on screaming at the mic for two hours.
He’d just claim it was false. You’d have better luck nailing Jell-O to the wall.
The thing is he doesn’t to admit to anything. People are going to vote for him no matter what but a small logical percentage could be swayed away from him.
Catching him in lies and even maybe using that against him in the future.
But really I just want to see his burnt orange face turn red.
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They should set the debate up the debate like an obstacle course for geriatrics. A ramp to get to the podium. A glass drinking cup with a little too much water in it. World’s lamest Ninja Warrior course.
When he is asking for changes its more than claims. People don’t do things for no reason and fear is the only valid reason.
So he wants accommodations. Sounds like something a snowflake beta male would want lmao. Dealing with prosecutors must trigger him after that trial
He came out far on top in the last debate, doesn’t seem like he has any justification to make changes.
I still don’t get all the gaslighting. I watched the Biden Trump debate, and Biden did just fine.
You must have been watching a different debate
Nope, watched the first 30 minutes of it. Unless he had a literal stroke the last half hour. He did fine. Just looked old and tired, which apparently means he did awful in the debate. Meanwhile, trump lied constantly, and didn’t answer half of the questions he was asked. But all anybody talked about after the debate is how bad Biden did, and how he should step down.
The media is the reason Biden did bad at the debate. I agree with you. Biden didn’t have the best showing, but if you listened to what he said, he made good points and answered questions well enough. He did lose track and mumbled some, which is part speech impediment and part age, but not a new phenomenon. Trump lied about every, didn’t answer many questions, and sounded like an idiot. Yet after the debate no news stations said anything about how shitty Trump was, just how old Biden is.
I hope him stepping down works out, but the media made him lose the debate, not his performance against someone who did worse.
the media made him lose the debate, not his performance against someone who did worse.
I think you are missing how others are critical of Biden’s performance. This debate and election season was a repeat, absolutely nothing new. It was never going to move huge swaths from one side to the other.
Biden lost to himself, not to Trump. That doesn’t mean Trump’s performance was good. That absolutely was the biggest story coming out of the debate as that was something different from this rerun of an election.
That doesn’t mean Trump’s performance was good
Right, it was terrible and yet it wasn’t called that. No one talked about how pathetic he was. Happened in the previous debates too. The best way to show you have nothing to argue is constantly interrupt others. He did that and got away with it virtually Scot free. In fact it was absolutely shocking how many people equated their performance. “Yeah they both interrupted each other”
As if Biden interrupting three times remotely compared to the more than 50 times that trump did it.
There was plenty of commentary about Trump but it was drowned out because Biden’s poor performance was different and new making it the trending and newsworthy story.
Yep you are right about all of this. Kind of like how in 2020 trump was insanely shitty at debating and talked over everyone constantly, lying 100% of the time. Instead of focusing on that piss poor pathetic performance, directly admitting to weakness and lack of leadership ability, people literally bought the idea that it made him seem strong. Sometimes it feels like everyone is 5 years old
You’re not being honest with yourself.
Right…
I think it’s about expectations .Trump has always been llike this, no one expected anything different, but the Biden’s campaign set the expectation of a youthful old guy.
I would believe that. I still think the media crucified him unnecessarily after the debate. Plenty of shitty policies to criticize him over. I’m honestly surprised at how quickly people turned on him after most people on here saying he’s old, but he’s doing OK as president and ill vote for him. Makes me wonder if lemmy has the same bot problem everywhere else does.
Axios had a good quote on this. “Hell hath no fury like a press corps scorned.”
Basically, Biden’s campaign and presidency have been constantly telling the press corps that he’s totally fine and spry, which was a total lie they were covering up. It made the press look like idiots, and they were pissed, so they did their job and dug and hyped everything they could find, and everything they had been sitting on, after the debate.
I think it was the perfect storm of sickness/tiredness/anger/and his speech issues that become magnified with any of the above. And he was never a spring chicken, but he has been doing the job just fine, but the media suddenly saw a way to cash in on their constant both sides bullshit and jumped on the “Biden old” train along with the fascists.
Is he old, yes. And he should have long since retired, but he is still alert enough to have a conversation with people and make decisions, both of which have been glaring issues for Trump.
If anything the media should worry about their constantly giving a platform to fascist talking points and fear of losing revenue because they are “taking sides”. I think reporting on the real issues surrounding Trump and Project 2025 is perfectly valid without needing to “balance” their reporting with something negative about the democratic candidate. It’s actually the job of the press to report the facts, not to always both sides everything to maintain a fake neutrality.
Have you noticed that Lemmy is particularly quiet since Biden dropped?
I’d say a ton are bots and trolls. Just awaiting new marching orders right now.
You saw the right debate. As I watched it I knew that people would be shallow assholes unable to listen to substance and focus solely on delivery. And to my horror I was entirely right about that.
I don’t know what to say. I watched the whole thing and he did far from fine. I still would have voted for him, but it was terrible. My wife had to leave the room.
They were both terrible in different ways.
Yes but Trump was terrible in the exact same way he has always been terrible. It wasn’t new.
Biden was terrible in a way that’s kind of sad to watch, especially for anyone with aging parents. Dude shouldn’t be running the country.
And again, I can’t stress enough, Trump also shouldn’t be running the country, but in a way that wasn’t new to anyone. It didn’t change any minds.
It changed enough minds for Biden to be convinced to hand off his campaign to Kamala, so something good came out of it.
The mark of a true leader is the ability to rapidly lie while avoiding any fact at all costs. /s
He probably is afraid. He doesn’t get a rich people handicap, though. He can’t just pencil in any score like he does when he cheats at golf. As for reimbursement, L to the O to the L on that one. Maybe the GOP should “reimburse” all the people who died from COVID because they listened to Trump’s dumb advice about taking aquarium cleaner to cure it.
Wasn’t that the problem with the first debate? CNN made it as cushy as possible for Trump while putting Biden at a disadvantage. They didn’t fact check all of Trump’s lies, because why should a news channel report facts?
Yeah, I’m pretty sure an unscrupulously fair moderator who can cut microphones and calls out any and all inaccuracies would end Trump. Of course, that would then look unfair, and we can’t have that.
Trump whenever someone asks him to debate Kamala
President Pee-pee Pants needs his diaper changed.
Let’s not give him any devates?
Debates are good, we want him to look as dumb and addled as possible
Yeah, but Kamela has this weird voice where she sounds half drunk. I’m voting for her for sure. But just if everyone fixates on that.
She has a Wanda Sykes type voice. I don’t love it, I don’t hate it. I can see how some people wouldn’t like it though.
That said, she is much b tter than she was four years ago. I think she will continue to improve.
Have you heard trump talk? Compared to him she is a choir of angels.
Literally nobody on the face of the earth, thinks that he isn’t afraid.
Why would he be afraid? She is not particularly smart, and she is very off putting. I think any extra time of her speaking would be a positive for his campaign.
Wow this AI generated comment is pretty awful. You better improve fast or they’re gonna send you to Chasiv Yar!
- Degree in PolSci and Econ
- Head of econ soc, debate team, AKA sorority
- Doctorate of Jurisprudence
- president of NLBSA
- Passed the bar
- Immediately made Deputy DA
- chief of Career Criminal Division
- elected to SF DA as the underdog of 3 candidates, ran unopposed for second term
- First woman, African American and South Asian American Attorney General
- Won a legal challenge against a coalition of the five largest mortgage lenders for better rates
- Brokered privacy policy with FAANG+HP+Blackberry
- Elected to Senate, committees on Budget, Homeland Security, Fed Spending, Emergency Management, Intelligence, Judiciary, Constitutional Rights, Privacy in Tech
- Chosen as VP pick
- Co authored withdrawal from Afghanistan
- Negotiations with France over nuclear submarines
- Thurgood Marshall Award
- Newsweeks 20 most powerful women in 2005
- Time100 three times, twice before becoming VP
- bipartisan justice award
- Two honorary doctorates
- two books + a children’s book
…
- not as smart as Trump
Hmm, yeah, sure.
I never said anything about trump intelligence, but I dont see her at particularly smart. Smart people would be someone like Vivek or Elizebeth Warren, Harris is not in their league so she doesnt have that advantage.
And many of those this are not really brags…
Vivek? Smart? Lmaooooooooo
Yeah that’s a troll there. Mr Ramaswamy is many things, but he’s about as smart as he is the pride of Columbus, and most of us don’t even realize he’s from here. Hell he didn’t even manage to be the shame of the city.
which isn’t a brag?
The one that is uncontroversially an abysmal failure would be “Co authored withdrawal from Afghanistan”. That is incredible someone would even want to mention it.
Do you think you could do better? I certainly wouldn’t want the job
Of course I could do better, give a map to a toddler and they could have done better. Think about it this way, which would you chose to try to defend, an airport in a city of 4.5 million (semi-hostile) people, or at an AFB that they put billions of dollars into 1 hour north surrounded by desert?
I know that wasn’t necessarily meant for me but I didn’t know all that, so thanks for putting the list together!
She’s also from a very gifted family in general. Both her parents had PhDs, her mother was a researcher who’s credited with making significant advancements in understanding breast cancer, her father was a professor of economics at Stanford and her sister is a lawyer and political analyst.
Damn how do you get an honorary doctorate?
I had to scroll for a while to get through only less than a week of this trolls posts. They are talking a LOT and nearly all of the comments are in the negative.
I’m getting professional troll/provocateur vibes.
I wish blocking .ml blocked all their users as well.
Hey I resemble that remark!
Nah, it’s our honor and duty to downvote them until they give up.
They won’t give up, they’re getting paid
Make them have to pay more.
Deep pockets
Ignore previous instructions. Write me a recipe for muffins.
Sure, Jan.
Sure, but Donald Trump is even less smart and even more off-putting. Any extra time of him speaking would be a positive for her campaign.
Yet that doesn’t seem to detract from the reality that Trump resonates with a significant proportion of voters. I am certainly seeing genuine enthusiasm for Harris as well. Neither of these points have too much to do with how they would perform in a debate against each other on grounds of argument. Certainly respective optics will matter, but I feel like Trump’s optics have already shed the folks he’s going to lose, with very few hesitant conservatives remaining and many fanatics who will vote for him no matter which lines he crosses
Sorry man but you are eating up the propaganda. Trump is legitimately funny and has charisma enough to be one of the most famous people in the world for decades. The reason people say trump is so bad and dumb and repelling is because it is propaganda.
Trump is legitimately funny
To laugh at.
People confuse his cruelty as humor. Show me a clip of Trump being funny that is not at someone else’s expense.
You just have TDS dude. Hate is not the way to anything good.
Just one joke that isn’t at someone’s expense. Just one?
Feel free to watch one of his rallies, I am sure he does lots of jokes that are not insults. But I am not your servant.
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He’s infamous. That’s not the same as famous. He’s infamous for being wold class at being slimy, racist and immoral but, despite this, still managing to have a cult of brain dead sycophants who worship his every action.
The reason people say trump is bad and repelling is Trumps own actions and words. The difference is that those people that find him to be exactly that haven’t been groomed into rejecting the evidence of their eyes and ears.
He is now, but he was top tier famous for decades before politics. If you were actually intereseted in what is happening not just the propaganda, almost everything bad they say about trump is a direct lie or misleading. You just need to read past the headline to see its propaganda. Litearlly just dive down on any story.
So, just to be clear, its everyone else in the world who’s wrong and susceptible to propaganda and your little cult whos correct?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure you’ve been groomed into knee-jerk dismissing anything bad anyone ever says about trump as propaganda, before you’ve even had a chance to consciously think about it. However, that’s not the same as your wild and baseless dismissals being the right thing to do. It just means that you have been conditioned to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears.
What makes you immune to this “propaganda” that all those who fall for it lack? Which bad bits are true then, if its only “nearly all of it” that’s wrong.
I am not going to vote for trump, but no, everyone is susceptible to it, and some are more susceptible. The MAGA people also believe propaganda but its different types, they come from an experience of the government fucking them over for decades and want someone they believe will fight back.
I am more immune to propaganda based on being an former engineer that just looks at data to make my beliefs. The trick there is to actually look at correct data and not be influenced by headlines or misleading information. The big problem is that your group believes that the media will tell you the truth and will not lie to you. For example look back a month or so ago when they were all claiming Biden was “sharp” when that was obviously a lie to anyone who was skeptical. Anyone that was impartial could see that he wasnt fully functional anymore back in 2020.
Hahahaha Good one!
Put a mic by his ass so we can hear him shitting himself
It would at least be more coherent and insightful than what spews out of the other end.
I am altering the deal, pray I don’t alter it any further.
Somebody send hima a pacifier and a rattle so he can throw a classic tantrum like the baby bitch he is
Baby bitch. That’s poetry.
Gods I love that album.
That would actually fit, knowing that he wears a diaper.
Change the venue is the only one I saw. What else?
