I figured a close stereotype for men, would be that they should all be farmers. The thing is, there are under two million farmers in the US as of 2023. So statistically, an equivalent occupation/role should have a larger number.

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    No wait I know the answer to this one… If you have a penis, you should be able to use tools competently and perform basic maintenance and repairs. I learned this just by watching cartoons and tv when I was a child so I taught myself all that stuff just because I thought you were assumed to. I now take $75+ per hour from men who cant figure out how a screwdriver works. I am virtual husband to many women who married paper shufflers who can’t even tighten a loose doorknob screw.

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      If you have a penis, you should be able to use tools competently and perform basic maintenance and repairs.

      I don’t think a penis is required. I personally think that every human being should know basic maintenance and repair skills.

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          As a woman, I will say that I consider myself blessed that i found a man that not only had basic electrical, mechanical, and plumbing knowledge; but also was willing to share that knowledge with me. Now I can do basic handyman stuff.

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            I moved into a house where a person with “basic electrical skills” lived and there are so many fire hazards and death traps. I wish electrical assistance was cheaper so people doesn’t mess with that. It was an old partner to the person I moved in with and she was upset that I hired an electrician to redo quite alot[

            Not anything against your skills, the phrase just reminded me of my former home :P

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              Agreed, and any major work is done by a licensed electrician, but replacing an outlet or switch is completely doable with training and safety measures.

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    Men shouldn’t be allowed near children that aren’t their own. It’s rarely stated but regularly assumed.

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      I think you were implying something different, but I feel like I get a ton of odd comments suggesting it’s weird for me to be out with my own kid. Things like “giving mom the day off?” or “what happened to his mom?”.

      I had friends complain about this kind of thing before I had kids and I thought that they were exaggerating. Nope, it’s all over the place. It’s certainly not everyone, but it is much more common than I expected.

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        Things like “giving mom the day off?” or “what happened to his mom?”.

        I always hated the “are you babysitting?”

        Like NO! These are my fucking kids, I don’t babysit them, I’m parenting

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      I’m 33 and never seen this IRL. Weird. Only heard people mention it online. Must be that thing that doesn’t actually happen and is only perceived on the web.

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        It’s likely a cultural thing. I’ve noticed it in urban Canada, myself.

        A man smiling at a child who looks at him will get glares or weird looks from the parent. A woman smiling at a child who looks at her will be nothing out of the ordinary. The same man is “allowed” to smile at children if he’s with a woman and/or a kid of his own.

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        Must be that thing that doesn’t actually happen and is only perceived on the web.

        By all means, take your own experience into account but don’t fall for this fallacy…

        By you own logic, murder must be a myth because it hasn’t happened to you

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        My daughter is a very different skin colour than me. Somehow the worst I’ve encountered to date is an uppity mother who thought I was telling off a random child.

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    “Women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen” transcribes to “Men should be shirtless and mentally ill in the garage.”

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      As a millennial, if I could afford a house, I PROMISE you I wouldn’t also be able to afford mental health treatments, or a shirt.

      So this tracks…if I could get a house.

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          You are going to be the best uncle that nobody trusts their kid with after what happened last time they had you watch their house. You have an important role in the community, selling illegal fireworks to bored teens.

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    Men not being allowed to be emotionally expressive has led to so many mental health problems…

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      Unpopular opinion: We should. Obviously as someone who builds and fixes things for living I’m a little biased but I do look down on men that lack any handyman skills (and so do many women). I think doing things like being able to change a tire on a car is about the bare minimum a man should know how to do. I’ll cut you some slack if you don’t own a car or a licence.

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        Why a man though - why not just a person?

        What is it that means that men ought to be able to do those things, but not women?

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          Because in general men are good with things and women are good with people. There’s a good reason the vast majority of construction workers, mechanics and engineers are men and it’s not (only) because women aren’t welcome on those fields.

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            I think that’s a massive over-generalisation to be honest. Women are just as capable at any of those things.

            I’m not sure why you would want to look down on people who don’t know how to do a thing, but at least do it equally.

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              Ofcourse it’s a generalization. I’m speaking of all men and women as groups. This isn’t about individuals.

              If you pick random 100 men and random 100 women from the population and give them the task of building/fixing something the men are going to perform better every single time.

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            Because in general men are good with things and women are good with people.

            Dude, you’ve been thoroughly brainwashed

            There’s a good reason the vast majority of construction workers, mechanics and engineers are men and it’s not (only) because women aren’t welcome on those fields

            …and you double down

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              No, you’ve been brainwashed.

              This is how productive your reply was. Are you going to elaborate or you here just to throw shit? Just telling someone they’re wrong isn’t exactly going to make them change their mind about it. Counter the argument - not the person saying it.

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                I don’t care if you change your mind… You are likely too far gone to think anything but man=labour, women=feels

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    As Red Green put it:

    If women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!

    The direct analogue would be “men should single handedly provide income to support a family”. So not farming necessarily, but men are pressured to be something other than just men, they get defined by their jobs more. Be a businessman, a farmer, a soldier. Women get defined more by their relationships to other people - a mom, a wife. Both of these are problematic in their own way.

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    It’s a man’s job to grill.

    I mostly let my girlfriend do that. I trust her way more with food than I trust myself.

    I usually just get the fire started.

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      One of my ex-GFs was fond of saying “Men are good for three things: heavy lifting, outdoor cooking, and sex.” Welp, two out of three ain’t bad.

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        I’m sure if you hit the gym for a few months you’ll have the strength to win her back.

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    Men should be the breadwinners, men should be the one to ask the woman out, men should pay for the first date, men have to be the ones who propose, men should be 6 feet tall… It sucks especially if you’re an introvert, shy, and nobody ever explained this shit to you as a teenager. Therapy ftw.

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    Protectors & providers

    It’s one of the worst kind of inequality which women don’t (or rarely) ever examine and question if it’s compatible with modern ideas