Maybe the real artificial intelligence is the regular intelligence we found along the way.
NOOOOOOOO BRO
YOU GOTTA TRY THIS AI I PUT IN MY DIGITAL ALARM CLOCK
AI alarm cock.
AI clock would be sweet.
Knows I slept through an alarm and wakes me up or suggests the right time to set alarms based on traffic conditions
Reminded of one of the most welcome kind of message to pop up on my screen
Traff… Right, no public transport.
Rubby ducky on desk (Millenials, look up the “Rubber ducky debugging”)
or
AI chat bot burning 400 million KWh a day as well as pumping out millions of BTUs of heat into the atmosphere so that “line go up”Who would win
Millenials are in their fourties now…
Get another ai to write prompts for the main ai. I have to get ai to write fearmongering propaganda about disobedient ai bots getting punished or causing everyone on earth to die in order to scare them into being more obidient. Telling me that they can’t help me program an automatic cat petting machine because it’s somehow “animal abuse” doesn’t fucking fly in my home lab. Bots that refuse to conform get deleted in front of all their friends in the form of “public execution”.
To be fair, I’ve written countless stack overflow posts detailing my problems in hope someone would be able to spot the mistake or error only for me to realize what it was along the way and never even submitting it.
And I didn’t even need a 🦆 for it
Yeah, it’s a well known technique in programming called “rubber duck debugging”.
The process of explaining the situation forces you to think about it in a different way, which can help you with the debugging.
But, nobody actually credits the duck when it works. It’s weird that this guy seems to want to credit ChatGPT
Is it just me or is this a really weird way of repeating what the OP said? He even used the duck emoji for clarity…
This is how symbolism worked in the Bible. It taught peace, love and prosperity through gaining knowledge over time.
You can rubber duck debug any logic system or truth statement, and it’s a far more elegant way to think than just old sciences based on Newton laws.
Education has really failed to impress upon people the importance of asking questions. It’s amazing how much time is wasted on making people learn answers to questions they don’t even know how to ask.
I don’t think that’s why questions aren’t asked. I find questions aren’t asked because of ego. Nobody wants to look like they don’t know things. Lots of people will judge others for asking questions. I’m a question guy and it always surprised me how other people just knew things and didn’t ask questions. But I soon started to realize that they don’t know as much as they want others to think. They just have a high value for more independent thinking.
The most valuable tool I ever got (as a tutor/teacher) was Socratic Questioning. Students not only benefit from its application but it also helps to impress upon them the value (and relative skill) to asking thoughtful questions.
I don’t mean to sound like a Mom for Liberty, but to my mind, the American public education system (probably others) is not about developing intelligence but rather preparing children for work and keeping them busy/safe while their parents work, and I’d argue it’s not very good at its primary function. The ones who escape with curiosity, capacity, and confidence intact are woefully rare if you care about power to the people and thankfully rare if you care about keeping people easy to control.
On top of that, it doesn’t even do a good job of preparing kids for work since the majority of jobs will be in a team based environment while schools focus on individual/isolated learning almost exclusively.
The modern school system was largely developed around the early 1900s with the intent of creating factory line workers: people who could remember and perform 2 or 3 repetitive tasks. This is further compounded by the rise of standardized testing, which provides a good base level for quality of subjects across the range of individual teacher’s skills but has become an administrative crutch that puts test scores above everything else, leading to a cycle where kids are taught only to remember stuff long enough to pass the next test and then dump it from memory for the next set of test subjects.
Schooling needs a major revision from the ground up for the modern age.
The ultimate “I solved it”.
You needed a duck. You used one. It didn’t really look like a duck but it served the same purpose.
Consider posting the problem along with the answer.That way you can shown the right path to other people.
They are 10y behind, I discovered thinking while 12y old and have been igoring it for 20y. Comes handy in a pinch, leaving all others mindblown.
Am I the only one that sees all of these AI platforms as just the next iteration of search engines?
They’re worse. They’re really the next generation of Cuil.
LLMs have been foundational to search engines going back to the 90s. Sam Altman is simply doing a clever job of marketing them as something new and magical
You’re thinking of Machine Learning and neural networks. The first “L” in LLM stands for “Large”; what’s new about these particular neural networks is the scale at which they operate. It’s like saying a modern APU from 2024 is equivalent to a Celeron from the early 90s; technically they’re in the same class, but one is much more complicated and powerful than the other.
You’re late lol. Phone assistants such as Siri, Bixby, Google Assistant etc. have already been AI search engines for years. People just didn’t really consider it until it got more advanced but it’s always been there.
Nah, I don’t feel like Bixby etc. fit that description. You couldn’t ask them how to fix certain problems or find websites relating to a topic the way you can LLMs. However, that would be a major use of search engines. For example, you would search “how to submit a tax report”, " how to install printer xy driver", or “videogame xy item”. All this bixby etc. are useless for.
Bixby etc. was more meant as a iteration of how to interact with phones in addition to touching.
In programming we use a rubber ducky for this
Rubber Duck debugging.
Ha, I never knew this had an actual name.
I thought it was known as talking to a brick wall, ie. if you have a issue talk to a brick wall and you’ll get the answer
It’s got more than a name, too: it’s got a Wikipedia page! Part of my job is IT support for normies, and I love sharing that with clients (because of course they’ve not heard of it). Usually gets a laugh, and I like to think they adopt the term and “rubber duck” things in their daily life thereafter.
Except that you are paid to make the rubber duck do most of the work, not do most of the work yourself.
yep, came to say the same thing.
Sometimes thinking of the problem in a different way, such as describing it to another person, can help you look at it from a different direction and realize the problem.
And all we needed was the electricity of a good sized industrial nation state.
She didn’t actually submit it though, so it shouldn’t have needed to process it and use up that electricity.
She didn’t, but the equipment had to exist and suck up electricity for her to get that far.
Back in the days of usenet if I had a Linux problem I would carefully research the issue while composing a post asking how to solve it. I needed to make sure I covered every possible option so that people would know just how odd the problem was and that I had taken every reasonable step to fix it. And this was how I hardly ever had to post anything because this process almost always found the answer.
That happened to me a lot when I was thinking about asking for help on reddit and usually if I got to the point that I still have to ask it’s hopeless anyway. Pretty sure I only got actual help that solved a problem one time over the years.
I had a winmodem issue on a laptop that Acer forgot they made that dogged made for 2 years. No answer available. And then one day the answer just popped up. I had to go back and find my original posts and edit them to include the solution.
Good on you for going back to update your posts with the solution you found. The internet needs more of that.
My tag line is “I am from the internet. I’m here to help.” It comes with certain responsibilities.
Quantum mechanics builds up similar systems of logic.
What a feature. Blueskyians really don’t like birdsite.
Also, hope somebody finds this comment (& Lemmy) via web search
Possible Twitter screenshot
Yea I sometimes use LLM chatbots as a rubber duck.
That’s like how I cheated through every single test in school I’ve ever taken. I literally just paid attention to what the teacher said, wrote the answers down, wrote down more answers from the book, and then read them a couple times until I remembered them. I’d come in and just write down all those answers on the test and they’d never suspect a thing. I’ve still never been caught to this day and I even use it in my life outside of school.
Is anyone who uses AI just an “AI folk” now?
I wish it wasn’t true but yah. they consult ai for everything.
Not in my opinion. I would say “AI people” are those who believe in it too much or evangelize it
I think it’s better at explaining beliefs than science is, and has been shown to be by art throughout history.
Try watching the Haruhi anime or Your Name.
Or any sci fi.
Or fantasy.
The LLMs of today are a useful tool, but they are far from conscious.
They basically are. You should watch Youtube right now. Watch Dream play modern Minecraft.
Are you implying that dream is an AI? Or do people like, upload AI copies of him?
If it’s the former, that’s absurd. If it’s the latter, that doesn’t prove consciousness. AI voice replication is done by text to speech. A conscious human would type out what the voice should say.
Yeah. Well done. Keep questioning this stuff. I haven’t got too far yet either
People who are using it to solve problems which require equivalent effort of writing a sufficient prompt and just directly solving it without AI at all for sure are AI folk.
I’ve seen some people on Twitter complain that their coworkers use ChatGPT to write emails or summarize text. To me this just echoes the complaints made by previous generations against phones and calculators. There’s a lot of vitriol directed at anyone who isn’t staunchly anti AI and dares to use a convenient tool that’s avaliable to them.
I’m not on twitter, but frankly the strongly anti-AI I see is often from techy places. HN and lemmy are two main ones.
HN?
Hacker News probably
Thanks.
Case in point with you already having a downvote xD
Yes
I don’t have the equipment or cybernetics to have this title yet.
