“Half of the Israeli public is no longer in favor of the war,” one friend told me Saturday night as we witnessed thousands of Israelis take to the streets to protest the Israeli government under the slogan, “Elections Now.” “Yes, but the other half is all-in, and REALLY in favor,” responded his wife. “And they are the more powerful group.”

She, of course, is right. For months, reports of torture and rape have emerged from Israel’s military base turned torture camp, Sde Teiman, where Israel has imprisoned thousands of Palestinians without charge. I wrote about it in a previous diary earlier this month. Palestinians who have emerged from this torture camp refer to it as the “slaughterhouse” with horrendous tales of torture, rape, abuse, and sleep deprivation being meted out by Israeli prison guards. Nearly 30 Palestinians have died while in Sde Teiman and other prisons, according to the information provided to date.

And while the precise chain of events is unclear, what we do know is that the Israeli military advocate general decided to dispatch the military police to question nine Israeli soldiers on suspicion of gang-raping and sodomizing a Palestinian man from Gaza at Sde Teiman. The man was rushed to the hospital where he exhibited signs of rape, including a ruptured bowel and broken ribs. It would be a mistake to simply think that Israel’s actions in prisons like Sde Teiman came only after October. Since becoming Israel’s national security minister in 2022, ultranationalist Itamar Ben Gvir has made prisons his target, with him authorizing abuse against Palestinians. He has also called for the death penalty to solve problems of overcrowding.

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    Always the anti-advocate for your views. Alienating people who would otherwise agree with your views. All because you’re insecure and can’t accepted that anyone who disagrees with you. For any reason no matter how small. As anything other than a Zionist. With “allies” like you no one needs any enemies.

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      Is there ever a legitimate reason for a genocide?

      And is there any reason for this genocide other than Zionism?

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        Where did I say there was? I didn’t even address that. I was simply addressing linkies well known immaturity.

        I like medi hassan a lot and hope his new Venture goes well. MSNBC really f***** up with the way they handled him. Israel needs to stop occupying Palestine. And killing innocent Palestinian civilians as they have for the last several decades. I generally agree with the article, it’s sentiment, and even the pushback against people worrying about fact checking box so they don’t have to think critically.

        But that doesn’t change the fact that Linky is pretty cringe and immature. Such that even people like myself who would generally agree. Can find it easy to understand why a lot of people would not only ignore him but also actively push back against the message that needs to get out because of who the messenger is. And pretty much the same thing can be said for anyone who replies to any critique. With “but genocide”. No matter how unrelated to the critique it may be.

        We win and make change by making allies and building solitaire. Not self victimization and whiny name calling.

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          Ah idk I don’t track or register individual usernames on here or go look at their other posts honestly so I wasn’t aware there was a long running beef

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            There’s a bunch of liberals on .world that get really upset when you point out Joe Biden is the reason israel can commit Genocide.

            So upset that you don’t even have to mention Biden anymore they will just instinctively defend israel now. They do their classic Genocide apologia schtick every time they get called out.

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            Thank you for proving my point Linky. You just can’t help yourself can you? Just a weird little creep like Trump in many ways. By the way for the record I’m left libertarian/anarco-communist. Not that you ever cared. But yeah this is why other people who generally agree with things disagree with you particularly.

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          We win and make change by making allies and building solidarity. Not self victimization and whiny name calling.

          Like everything, there’s a flip-side. That means acknowledging our own wrongs, and addressing them. I’m not overly-fond of 12 Step programs, but there are some decent ideas they’ve put forth. One of them is “Principles before personalities.”

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      What an ironic comment since the Zionist mods of /news and /worldnews are the ones that banned me for debunking their literal israeli propaganda.

      Not sure what this has to do with the mods using the MBFC website which is ran by literal Zionists that label MondoWeiss as unreliable because they are “anti-zionist”. If Anything the mods on the .world news sub’s have proven they are massive Zionists with that move alone.