Last time I tried HDR on Windows, that sucked too.
My Android TV and consoles are about the only devices where it works properly.
My TV and PS4 Pro have HDR. I’m sure it helps make brightness better, but it just makes everything look yellow.
Also, I don’t even think my TV’s HDR works with its apps. I distinctly remember House of the Dragon and trying to see something. I accidentally closed the app and reopened and suddenly it was super clear. It’s like it turned the HDR on (or off) and suddenly everything was visible in an otherwise dark scene.
Quality of HDR is very much dependent on the TV you have I think.
I’m still rocking a 2017 LG OLED which are considered pretty good, but as you go down into LCDs and the cheaper brands, you’ll probably take a hit on image quality. Some TVs used to have a yellow pixel as well as red blue and green, so could even be that.
HDR is less about the brightness (although they are brighter than older TVs) and more about colour and brightness accuracy.
Brightness is very key imo. If your display can’t easily hit 1000nits it won’t be very good.
HDR games is fucking baller on the steam deck. I’m legitimately thinking of switching to kde from sway so I can take advantage of it on my new OLED monitor.
My love for Linux remains unrequited because my work in video and photography ties me to Adobe. I’ve dabbled with dual-booting, and though Linux’s allure is undeniable, the inconvenience of constantly switching between operating systems is unbearable. The idea of mastering DaVinci Resolve and an alternative photo editor has crossed my mind, but deadlines loom, and time to learn new software is scarce. The anxiety of not knowing if I can accomplish my tasks with unfamiliar programs is overwhelming. Ironically, my disdain for Adobe rivals my contempt for Musk and Trump, making it all the more disheartening to feel ensnared by Adobe’s ecosystem when tantalising alternatives are just out of reach.
This clip lives in my head rent free.
where is the clip from?
hahahaha
as a person who has it installed and has an OLED monitor, am not pictured. Of the few things why I haven’t bothered connecting my laptop to my monitor ever yet, though it happened recently for KDE plasma
We recently got hdr support tho
And lack of Adobe is a feature, not an issue.
Linux wins again.
To access a lot of pdfs used in the military you need adobe or it won’t open, you get this stupid screen telling you to download the latest version. So it’s required for some jobs :(
HDR works. On KDE Wayland and in games only with Gamescope, but we are getting there. And there is the Steam Deck of course.
I never managed to get gamescope working on my Nobara. Any docs I should look into?
Depends on what you mean with not working. Get any errors? e.g. i like to test with vkcube (vulkan-tools need to be installed. don’t know the package name on Nobara / Fedora). if
gamescope vkcube
runs, then its likely not a gamescope problem but one with the e.g. game you try to run or wine / proton.But the latest versions seem to be indeed a bit problematic. The last that works (mostly) flawless on my Arch is 3.14.2. So maybe worth a shot to downgrade to that if your current one fails with vkcube.
Otherwise, it is probably a good idea to get in contact with the Nobara community or the developer. I hate to recommend Discord, but as far i know that is unfortunately the only place where they are active.
And there is of course always the excellent Arch Wiki which is usuable for other distros as well: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope
I use windows on one of my computers just in case some friend wants to play some invasive anti-cheat game…
I actually do use acrobat for legal document work
It good for adding signatures and making changes to pdf format schtuff
If that’s your only use case you can also use Xournal++ on Linux which does the job.
Of course your choice of OS is totally up to you and you don’t have to justify it to anyone, just letting you know the tool exists.
Xournal lets you paint on a document, which I guess isn’t what they need when they talk about legal stuff. Digitally signing a document is still one of the rare cases where I boot up my windows vm. It’s so annoying that there’s practically no way to do that in Linux as my company’s processes rely on it.
We use foxit reader on Linux for that at work.
Okular can digitally sign
Wait digital signature is not easy on linux? What kind of digital signing is this? I thought it was possible with GPG and also with gui apps. Maybe I’m thinking about some other digital signing??
PDFs have embedded digital signatures, so the signing tool needs to support the proprietary format.
What if i just sign the entire pdf file with GPG? That is not valid?
If it was valid, do you really think people would be talking about it being a problem here? Please use your head a little.
Also, two entitely different meanings of the word signing being used here. Signing as in signing a bill vs. Cryptographic signing. Adobe has some weird “halfway” thing that’s more than painting the sig on the image, but isn’t gpg.
Hooray for proprietary shit becoming accepted for legal use! Yuck.
When I worked with a lot of legal documents, we just used DocuSign mostly. Have you attempted that on Linux? Not sure what it’s like these days, also curious if it’s because it’s a web application if it works the same.
Imagine real signed file being denied and one with painted signature accepted
Well, it uses existing PKI/CAs (ie, same as your browser), which I’m not sure GPG supports? I might be wrong.
You could certainly use GPG, but it’s not what others will be looking for. Depends on your use case, I guess.
Ohhhh yeah you’re right, I forgot digitally signing is different from just painting a signature on there >< .
what do you use for illegal documents?
A pirated copy of acrobat
Like this?
Pirate acrobat
We got pirate acrobat at home.
Pirate acrobat at home:
Adobe Acrobat works for me using Bottles/Wine. Pirated and old version of course
Wait… There’s no HDR support? Is that true?
HDR is more important than high frame rates in many games, assuming you have a good monitor that supports it. Seriously, it’s amazing and extremely underrated.
Barely anybody has a good HDR monitor tho
You’d be surprised
Yeah there are like 5 monitors with full array local dimming, most being $500+ except for that one AOC. And OLEDs are still $700+ and have burn-in after a year of desktop use.
I mean, I don’t have to say there are more than five, right? We all know this is hyperbole?
I just typed it into Amazon and the cheapest one is $290. It doesn’t have full array dimming, but neither does the one use. The one I use looks incredible compared to non-hdr.
Yes it’s an exaggeration but it’s not far off. The one for $290 is the aforementioned AOC.
This isn’t a perfect list but pcpartpicker only has 15 monitors with HDR1000 or higher with one being a duplicate so it’s actually 14. If you remove the HDR filters there’s 773 monitors.
That means only 14 out of 773 monitors support HDR properly. And that doesn’t even mean they’re good, just that they support it.
I accidentally got one because I needed a good one for creative work. When I turned this on… Holy shit guys, it’s insane.
I have an HDR TV that is garbage, too. But my monitor using HDR makes games look absolutely beautiful. This was 5 years ago, too… I bet they get so much better now.
The meme is kinda outdated. You can get HDR since KDE Plasma 6
Do game support it? Last I heard it didn’t work on any games
I think games running through proton and wine support it.
So it feels like these are all extra layers. I haven’t used Wine in years, but it was very frustrating the last time I tried it.
By comparison (don’t crucify the messenger), Windows supports it by default. This is one of the many reasons why I still game on Windows. In general, games just work. You click install and then play and you’re up and running in just a few minutes.
…I’ll see myself out.
Running games through Proton is as simple as clicking install and then play on Steam. You might need to enable Steam Play or such but I haven’t had setup or config troubles with games in years now
Valve did some work to support it in steam deck, it’s going to work its way upstream hopefully.
So it’s the answer “no” right now?
Probably depends on how much effort you want to put into it. Probably works in some distros with certain repos, but won’t work out of the box everywhere.
It works in Elden Ring and Baldur’s Gate 3 for me. Haven’t tried anything else.
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From my experience in Linux:
- Many pirated games installer doesn’t work under wine (like from xatab, RG Mechanic, Razor, etc) unless you download pre-installed games like from IGG Games or you just download pirated gog games
- Buggy glitching games work under wine (i don’t know why that happened)
- Many mod organizer & tools (MO, VORTEX, NMM, etc) doesn’t work unless you download old version or download some sketchy dll files from sketchy website to make those programs works well
- Sometimes after running games under wine my system crashes like unable to restart/shutdown or failed to open some programs like dolphin, terminal, etc (maybe bc my system running on wayland)
- No Photoshop, After Effects, or Microsoft Office (yes…i know linux has similar programs but those suck & my workplace has standard)
- Hard to fine tuning some apps unless you wanna do some dirty work in YAML or XML or CONF files
Mod organizer 2 leastest exe work with wine (I used Lutris) I have yet to find a games installers that didn’t work with wine (I download my games from fit girl repacks)
Fitgirl installers just crash on me 🤷♂️
Weird, what distro are you using?
It not working on certain distros is yet an other point of pain for Linux
Yeah I guess that’s XD, maybe if you skilled enough you might be able to make everything work on any distro
Vortex works quite well for me, the only game that is not working correctly is BG3 because of the third party tool to mod the game requires .NET 8 and even if I install it with ProtonTricks/WineTricks the tool doesn’t recognize it. With the game receiving official mod support I think the issue will be fixed.
Mate you can’t tune apps on windows at all. Most of those things actually work on Linux. You just exposing yourself
Xatab’s work fine. I only had one pirate installer in hundreds of games that i couldn’t get to work. You sometimes need vcrun (newest is vcrun2022) from winetricks to get it working.
Mod organizers usually have a linux version or at least work in wine. What hurts is wabbajack hasn’t and doesn’t work.
Edit: nevermind. The one that didn’t work at all was the installer of ‘Network Addon Mod’ for SimCity4k.
Can you explain why MS office alternatives like libreoffice suck?
I think it comes down to 2 main reasons, and some members of the libreoffice suite definitely do a better job than others.
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Comparability with MS Office, it’s really difficult to use these programs when you can’t reliably collaborate with people using the de-facto standard office software. Impress is exceptionally bad at this.
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User interface clunkines, the ribbon ui Microsoft uses in modern office versions is really nice, and makes finding the actions you need really easy. This is coming from someone who used office 03 and 07, it’s not just a learning thing, it’s a better design.
These issues are definitely a bigger deal on some parts of the suite than others. I’ve found Calc to be a solid replacement for Excel, but when I’m making spreadsheets I’m not fiddling with complex formatting at all. Impress is on the opposite end of the spectrum. It has horrible comparability with PowerPoint, and I need to get things looking just right when I make a presentation. It’s difficult to find even basic formatting options. I could probably solve the usability issues by reading a few tutorials, but the comparability issues hold me back from putting the time in, since I have no idea how a presentation will look when someone loads it in PowerPoint anyway.
you mean this
look better than this??
I dont know but i like libreoffice better in terms of ui.
But now I think I understood the formatting issue in calc tho. i dont know how excel handles this
playing around with Impress i can get pretty good slides without any issues(yet). I think your problem is only with portability. I guess that will remain unsolved for a long time.
edit :
So yeah now I dont see the formatting problem, can you elaborate on that?(what other formatting issue you faced?)
Yes the PowerPoint ui is much better. It takes more space but it’s much easier to find features you might not use as frequently.
I haven’t done much switching between calc and excel. Formatting issues come up when making or editing a document in libreoffice and opening it in MS office. Especially with impress, the position and sizes of objects will be very different between the two programs. This makes opening a presentation from impress with PowerPoint on a different computer impractical.
I like Libreoffice ui better. There are different ui modes too if you want to experiment. I selected tabbed compact since I like compact UI, there are other modes which takes more space and have more features visible probably. Anyway UI might be about preferences but at least there are different UI modes. If you hate all of them, its okay.
Almost all your problems sounds like problems when mixing MS office. Do you face other problems that is not a compatibility issue with MS?
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The first one I’ve never encountered, but I also never heard about those (only razor). Fit girl always works (the one with Amelie). I’ve tried others and also worked.
It could be those installers have dependencies that are not in your base bottle?
You’ve just said your 5 biggest problems with Linux are things that Microsoft did.
Microsoft made mod organizers not work?
It does though
Vortex is written in .Net, so, yeah.
My solution to #1 is installing it in a VM and copying the installed game over. It works, but quite annoying
The funniest thing is, people say Linux is not ready, cause [insert feature] doesn’t work. The problem is said feature doesn’t work on Windows either.
For example pausing/resuming playback across multiple appliacations using media keys. It’s not perfect on Linux (not every app uses MPRIS), but it’s not great on Winodws either
Hell tbh I never use my pause/resume button, I just hit “p.” I <3 VLC
Yeah, but that works on VLC only and it has to be focused. With MPRIS you can eg. pause a song playing in mpd, while having VLC focused
It works way better on Linux. I especially like the gnome screenshot tool
Try flameshot or spectacle, way better.
I think most of the complaints are that Microsoft Office doesn’t work. Which is true. The web version of Microsoft Office is honestly kinda terrible.
And no, people don’t want to use a product that does the same thing as Microsoft Office, they want to use a product called “Microsoft Office”. No, it’s not logical, and doesn’t make any sense at all but it’s how people are.
Our company has bought into the whole onedrive/teams/ Microsoft family.
They’ll do what the IT guy says but that first time copilot popped up grrr
The only sense it makes is that M$ hasn’t followed the spec, and so things done in office display fine I’m say libreOffice, but not the other way around. So if you’re company is willing to transition, but everyone you deal with outside the company is still on Office, there’s a bit of a communication issue. That’s M$'s biggest strength, homogenous work environments.
You spelt monopoly wrong.
That’s why my business only uses pure, crisp .txt files. If I can’t open it in notepad, I don’t want it!
I have unironically been preaching the powers of text and JSON, and have some converts. Universal compatibility is great.
Json is a garbage format for anything that’s meant to ever be touched by a human. At least use yaml or json5.
In the first paragraph of JSON5’s site:
It is not intended to be used for machine-to-machine communication.
YAML is not supported by a lot of enterprise software (example: Azure pipelines supports it but Power Automate does not). JSON, XML, CSV, or failing that Text are the safe bets. We use a few options for reading or building presentation layers quickly. Ultimately the idea is to move data around in a way that is friendly to our current and future applications.
It’s absolutely trivial to convert either format to json if necessary. The real killer for me with json is the lack of comments. Human-maintained files absolutely need comments.
With markdown or asciidoctor or restext or … you get both worlds.
Fuck it! I’m in!
There shouldn’t even be word processor documents between companies. PDF is the file type for maintaining consistency of page formatting!
Should be and is in fact? Two veeeerrrry different things
Microsoft’s biggest strength is the Active Directory. Linux user and computer management is a huge PITA.
For Linux user management you can just use an LDAP solution like FreeIPA. You can even tailor sudoer rules based on security groups, so like you can allow someone to reboot the server but not actually make configuration changes to system config files and what-not. It’ll also handle CA and PKI with smart card support and of course DNS. It has a web interface as well.
I’ve done workstation maintenance in a previous job. Every part of the Linux centralized management was worse than Windows. We did it to support our coworker’s wishes, but SSSD constantly shits the bed, and having to code (config management) to write some pretty simple rules like default printers is super annoying compared to the Active Directory built ins.
I don’t know, I like using Fleet Commander with FreeIPA (where it stores the profile). You just spin up the template VM for whatever like-clients on the network you want to make default profiles for and make the changes, shut it down, checkbox the changes (the configurations and stuff) that you approve and let it apply the profiles across the network. Easier than depending on Puppet or Ansible playbooks IMO.
I have had issues with SSSD as well though and it had to do with Kerberos tickets but I can’t remember what I did to fix it. We’d have to manually use kinit on each machine when it’d basically fall off the realm. I want to say it was a DNS issue but it was so long ago, I just don’t remember.
We used to use Centrify for Linux and Solaris and it was easy using Access Manager to basically handle AD users and computers with Active Directory and had some GPO support (you could push config writes with GPOs for example and organize it all via OUs for example) but it would get a little wonky between trusts in the forest sometimes (in regards to zone management in Centrify) and they kept getting more expensive. Maybe they’ve fixed that stuff now but it was really simple to use and you could basically manage a lot through the AD and create group profiles in the Access Manager. I think the last straw was wanting to force us to license the entire suite regardless of whether we were using it or not. Personally, I never liked it because it wouldn’t use SSSD or kclient/nsswitch and if some service tried to join the realm/domain, it’d join using the same computer accounts and basically break the account since Centrify used its own client, so you’d specifically need to join the computer accounts via Centrify as a different name. It wasn’t detrimental or anything – just annoying that it was a problem at all. Also, sometimes the user cache database saved in specific users’ appdata that use Access Manager would corrupt from time to time and you’d need to manually delete it to use Access Manager. I’d hope they fixed that by now too though.
All and all, I’m not saying Active Directory isn’t an excellent product because it is and I’m not saying that there is a 1:1 solution for Linux but I’m saying it that in my experience it isn’t terrible either with FreeIPA and products you can use with it. I definitely hated other 389 solutions prior to FreeIPA though.
AD is easy top set up in Linux with a samba4 docker container. For instance: https://github.com/Fmstrat/samba-domain. Even HSS a script to easily join debian based machines.
This needs to become illegal and bear a bankruptcy inducing fine if repeatedly done.
We need to get rid of these monopolists
Pretty sure it is “illegal” I mean didn’t they get dragged through court in what the 90s 00s? Specifically for anti-competative monopolistic actions. Illegal was in quotes there because nothing really changed.
They’re a feature of the economic system, not a bug. We don’t have a good track record working against it.
I agree with your second sentence. Thats what we need to change.
So use OnlyOffice instead of LibreOffice
At least one good thing that Google has done is that Docs/Slides work on browsers and (where I live) most people use that now.
Not great if you are also trying to de-Google, though.
If the alternative is Microsoft, you’re between a rock and another rock that used to claim not being evil.
Libreoffice all the way. Most users don’t need more than that.
Google is not really much better than MS. It still leaves you under the yoke of big tech. “Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss”.
Micro$oft office is being teached in college for my friend and I, having libreoffice, tried doing the exact same thing in it. Not only everything was possible, but also its more convenient in LibreOffice. There are many annoyances in m$ office like auto formatting which cannot be disabled and auto prediction which fills in the details of next cited person from previous (like hell what, how should two people must have same bio?) and now you have to edit all that out by replacing the autofilled ones. LibreOffice on the other hand has much better UX
(Talking about Excel vs Calc and also Word vs Writer)
I mean maybe that specific advanced feature is not in libreoffice, but there are much more good things in it that is worth considering using it.
I use libreoffice and onlyoffice daily for academic works, with a few works published out there. I even use more features than the average office user, and I have to listen to people claiming that they can’t use any of those, because they’re inferior. I even have to listen to people saying that libreoffice isn’t suited for doing any SERIOUS WORK, and I’m like “What? My work isn’t serious?”.
But tne other user got a point. People want to see the name and the ms office logo. They will reject any alternative just because is isn’t ms office, no matter how good and sufficient they are.
Edit the menu entry?
My dad initially wanted his old Norton Antivirus, so i made an internet shortcut with the logo and name, to a webpage explaining why antivirus sucks.
I installed a Windows 11 update. Office no longer worked. Office refused to re-install despite trying a huge number of things. It literally refuses to install. Tried their help tool which even does removal of old references in the system. Failed 5 times.
Tried using the web version for a simple thing. First localization struggle which doesn’t carry across sessions. Excel column formatted to number. Then to currency. Then to general. Autosum shows #Div!0 still. Tried seeing if the AI could help. Have to re-login. (Using Mozilla this whole time btw). After re-login, ai tool says stop using private mode. I’m not…
Literally trying to do the simplest autosum on about 25 lines and it can’t function.
Installed LibreOffice. No problem with ‘Excel’.
I’m really not exaggerating. I saw online a similar issue and the guy had to reinstall the entire OS to get office to work again 🤨
I’m really not exaggerating. I saw online a similar issue and the guy had to reinstall the entire OS to get office to work again
That’s windows for you, have a major issue? Reinstall the OS. Been using the computer for to long? Reinstall the OS
Office 2016 works, there is office online and LibreOffice. What now?
I have seriously considered trying to install Microsoft Office 2024 (aka OnlyOffice) for a family member to see if they even notice.
OnlyOffice is pretty nice for homegamers I think. I just don’t need or want a full up heavyweight office suite anymore. And I’ve gotten to the point where I remove LibreOffice and replace it with OnlyOffice every time.
So do it, just do it. You know you want to…
Oh I run OnlyOffice locally and in NextCloud already ;) So it would only be for someone who lives in another state, simply to see the reaction.
I would do it for the reaction. I doubt they would complain very much at all.
You know, i made my dad try OnlyOffice and he loved it except for the fact that not all shortcuts worked. Years of experience with excel shortcuts didn’t translate in exactly the way he wanted. Which makes sense ig but i think that would give it away
Have you tried excel ? Its WAY AHEAD of any excel like thing available as office in wild. Just example vlookup , Power tables , vba are no whwre near in any of the products.
You’re giving me VBA flashbacks. The worst language I’ve ever programmed in.
If only libreoffice had an app for mobile platforms…
Being unable to open the documents I wrote on my computer without using some kind of crappy ad filled third-party app is annoying.
Libre Office has a mobile app. The one called LibreOffice viewer is only a file viewer but works perfectly if you only look at documents, it is developed by the same foundation that develops LibreOffice. If you want to edit, Collabora is the name of the app, it is based on LibreOffice and is officially approved by The Document Foundation. It is developed by one of their certified collaborators. Both are available on Android and iOS.
Thank you!
Try Collabora Office!
Thanks!
Ironically, Microsoft has retired the “Microsoft Office” name.
I’ve beeb gaming in HDR for years, that is definitely a deal breaker for me. Shocked honestly that with OLED monitors blowing up, linux still doesn’t support HDR?
A friend came to my place with his Linux laptop, to grab some privateered games off of my Nas.
Couldn’t connect to anything on the network.
He was like ‘yo let me try these command lines’
When he was done fiddling around his computer wouldn’t boot.