Real question. I would like to know what drives you to hate Apple? (In terms of privacy of course because in terms of price it’s another story).

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    17 days ago

    I don’t like closed systems, vendor lock-in, overpriced tools, or buying equipment that I’ll never truly own.

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    17 days ago

    Objective c, mostly. 😐

    But also the fact that other operating systems run better on their hardware. Linux on apple silicon outperforms macos on that same hardware. A tiny team is porting software to your platform almost completely in the dark.

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    17 days ago

    Always found their adverts rubbed me the wrong way, the technology as fashion thing. I also considered them the best brand on the planet for how successful their marketing was. Just not for me.

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    Mostly their marketing practices. They are designed well but mostly designed to keep you locked in one way or another.

    For me, their desktop is not as intuitive as people make it seem and lacks simple shortcuts that most other desktops have.

    On mobile, its the restriction of customization and options. They are getting better at customizing but still limit you on options for anything outside of their apps. They claim to be private but follow similar practices as other companies, just in a more quite way with better PR.

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    Wife spilled some beer in the keyboard. Screen doesn’t turn on, it doesn’t hold a charge, keyboard doesn’t work. But we need sensitive data off the drive.

    Take it to their “genius” bar where we are told there is nothing that can be done for the old data and we should just buy a new one.

    I take it home, Google a bit and try target disk mode. Et Voila I’m in and can get that data from the hard drive as though it was an external HDD.

    Why the Apple “genius” didn’t share this option with me? They don’t actually care about helping.

    And that’s the rub with Apple. They don’t give a fuck about their users or developers. Just want to herd them around to make more money off their overpriced garbage.

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    16 days ago

    Anti-consumer shit like crazy pricing, doing everything they can to discourage repairs, going after third party parts/accessories/service, and how locked down their OSes are. Also, it’s ridiculous that they don’t have any sort of real enterprise management and IT has to rely on third party stuff (ironic given how Apple can be about third party stuff sometimes).

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    16 days ago

    Because I want to repair and fix my things without needing special software or proprietary tools. Along with a userbase of American teens who will treat you like shit just based on the phone you have.

    I’m so glad I switched away.

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    16 days ago

    It boils down to two broad categories for me:

    1. How locked down the OS is on iPhones and iPads. We’ve seen recent progress (Safari extensions, retro console emulators), but we’re still far from a serious OS. iOS still lacks a proper file management system (especially for playing back local audio) and no side-loading is still a deal breaker.
    2. Obscene markups for easily accessible parts. Apple still believes 8GB RAM is worth $200, and they believe 1TB storage is worth $800. I’d rather just get something with replaceable RAM and storage.
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    • Closed software (and hardware if we count in house arm chips?) ecosystem is bad for security and privacy
    • Apple is subject to ancap US corporate law, which means they can realistically do whatever they want with your data (and it would be a bad business decision not to) with no real punishments/business expenses if they’re caught
    • Large number of users increases interest for state backdoors
    • *BSD has mostly the same userland, is totally free, and open source
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    17 days ago

    Same reason I don’t like sony. They’re too busy telling the people who buy the fucking products what they’re allowed to do with them, and spend the rest of the time creating proprietary shit that traps their customers.

    Hardware is great. Everything else is pretty much an abusive spouse.

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    17 days ago
    • Overpriced
    • Tim Cook
    • Closed ecosystem
    • People using Apple devices are usually people that don’t know a thing about tech, yet boast about how good Apple is while criticizing other brands, blindly believing the marketing Apple does
    • Shitty decisions
    • Devices are designed to be as hard as possible to self-repair
    • Overpriced
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    Few reasons, first is this: . Seems like as long as something has a clean interface, or it looks shiny enough, then all its privacy faults are overlooked.

    Apple also seems to intentionally cultivate and sell their products as privacy-friendly, which is clearly not the case (see image above).

    2nd reason is that I had an iphone 2g (one of the first models, I forget which one), and it had bluetooth support. An iOS update broke it, and when I reached out to apple, they lied to me and told me my device had no bluetooth module at all. They’re one of the worst offenders of planned obsolescence, and have become one of the richest companies on the planet because of it.

    3rd reason: they sell overpriced products to mainly to high-income imperial-core consumers, selling an image of “upper-class professional”. Look at a graph of iOS market share worldwide, vs its market share in the richest countries. Apple didn’t even bother to condescend to make affordable products for the global south.

    The markup on iphones is something outrageous, like 40% of the purchase price is going to the shareholders of apple, not the workers who built the phones. By buying apple, you are mainly supporting these wealthy parasites. Its also why other smartphone brands have higher performance at half the cost of iphones. They really bank on the fact that they’re selling an upper-class identity, and less of a phone.

    4th reason: Their ecosystem is locked down in such a way as to make it difficult for open source development. iirc apple won’t even let you use the GPL for any app on their app store.

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      16 days ago

      I wonder if younger millennials’ and Gen z’s overwhelming preference for iPhones over Androids is indicative anything in the future

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          apple products are coveted both in and out of imperial core; whether or not they can afford them.

          my point is that the most well educated and leftist leaning generations we’ve ever had (i’m assuming) continues to place a premium on products like these and that makes the eventuality of breaking out of this imperialist cycle seem unrealistic.

    • 𝙱𝚎𝚝𝚊𝚠𝚑𝚊𝚝@lemmy.zipOP
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      16 days ago

      Wow, this is the most complete answer I have ever seen. But is it wrong if I stay at Apple? Are there any competitors on the Android side that are worth it (I am thinking in particular of a pixel on which GrapheneOS is installed)?

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        I’ll mention that a pixel with CalyxOS works great as well, no google code code other than AOSP which helps battery life a lot.

        Some things like voice controlled companion or android auto are being implemented, but I never really gave a fuck about that stuff, being on bicycle or motorcycle only.

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        I’m currently using Graphene and I love it. There are some features in this OS that i have never seen before. It feels like I’m just running a regular OS. I don’t notice anything unusual.

        One thing I really like with gOS is the ability to remove network permission on apps. I use Gboard with no network, and I have found it so far to be the best keyboard for me.

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        16 days ago

        I don’t think it’s wrong to stay with apple, you could always just go with something else for your next phone, although if you are concerned enough about the privacy aspect, you could always sell your phone, and get some advice about which are the best smartphone models to run the privacy-focused android variants.

        Some of them list the devices they work on, like lineageOS.

        There’s ppl here a lot more knowledgeable than I am here that could help you choose one.

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    16 days ago

    Overpriced, locked down hardware, walled garden software, and a snobbish userbase. I simplify it all down to "I’m not paying 500 more dollars for a logo."