I’ve been transitioning to Linux recently and have been forced to use github a lot when I hadn’t much before. Here is my assessment.
Every github project is named something like dbutils, Jason’s cool photo picker, or jibbly, and was forked from an abandoned project called EHT-sh (acronym meaning unknown) originally made by frederick lumberg, forked and owned by boops_snoops and actively maintained by Xxweeb-lord69xX.
There are either 3 lines of documentation and no releases page, or a 15 page long readme with weekly releases for the last 15 years and nothing in between. It is either for linux, windows, or both. If it’s for windows, they will not specify what platforms it runs on. If it’s for Linux, there’s a 50% chance there are no releases and 2 lines of commands showing how to build it (which doesn’t work on your distro), but don’t worry because your distro has it prepackaged 1 version out of date and it magically appears on flatpak only after you’ve installed it by other means. Everything is written in python2. It is illegal to release anything for Mac OS on github.
Just a reminder to https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/ and that GitHub is Microsoft.
Tell this guy
Torvalds actually hates GitHub
The kernel repo on github is just a mirror. You probably knew, but they use just use git.
I just wanted to make a joke, but tbh I really didn’t know so thanks for telling me
One good alternative: codeberg.org
Learn to read code (git gud) /s but it’s the only way to be sure (nuke from orbit)
Or, look at the stars…
Or, look at the stars…
Today my horoscope tells me to not use github in particular and avoid compiling any code in general.
That’s what I’ve been trying to tell my boss for the last 6 months…
in other words your impression of a microsoft run website with the least foss example of git, since switching to linux
Correct! It’s where web searches bring me so it’s what I use until I git gud enough to learn how to find things better.
As someone who works fairly extensively with all three major platforms… You’re definitely wrong about macOS here. Almost everything on GitHub that works on Linux also works on Mac, aside from GUI applications which are often more OS dependent. The readme pages often just lump Mac and Linux together as they can be pretty similar, especially for things written for interpreted languages (python) where it’s often literally the same.
I recently bought a MacBook Air M1 and I came at it from a classic “ThinkPad with Fedora on it” Linux nerd perspective. I got given a Mac at work a couple of years ago, and I warmed to it. I agree that Macs are great tools for DevOps work. I used to think they were just for posers but I’ve been converted.
Just home brew everything?
I home brew installed most stuff, yeah. I’m lucky in that I don’t need a whole lot of stuff installed. Just a couple of JetBrains IDE’s, a couple of browsers, iTerm2 and a handful of popular CLI utilities.
Yep. I’m Linux at home but macOS all day at work. My employer won’t let us use Linux workstations (despite everything I work on being Linux…). Both are vastly superior to Windows.
Is it because they can’t run their spyware on a Linux machine ?
Came here to say this. Just get home brew up and running. One you have gcc and your other basic tools installed, there’s very few Linux guides that won’t work on a Mac. A couple shell tools have different names, but that’s about it.
Between homebrew and nix, the amount of foss macs can run out of the box is pretty close to some generic Ubuntu (nixpkgs is technically the largest repo out there, but not all of the nixpkgs are available on mac).
Interesting how we live in different bubbles ✌️
Yes the world of github and linux is vast and I am like a newborn baby. I hope to visit your bubble one day my friend.
My bubble is mostly lm, which comes in two flavors:
(1) useless repo made up entirely of jupyter notebooks and 28363 requirements achieved via pip freeze
(2) simple, friendly, well documented, runs
While I do see most of the listed stuff happened to me before, they only appear once in a while and it’s often just one sentence in the list is true. I think OP is trying to make an exaggerating slander where it’s extremely unlucky to have more than 5 sentences is right
Use docker
OP listened to some trolls and unironically picked Gentoo as their first distro.
Yeah you want to know the funny thing: I ended up on Github a lot when I was new to Linux, but that has happened less and less over time and I think it’s due to two unrelated factors:
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I have assimilated. As a Microsoft emigrant, I was used to doing things a certain way, there were things I didn’t know about Linux, I hadn’t really chosen the hardware I owned for Linux compatibility, etc. So I kept having to go get weird device drivers and weird little software packages to work on my distro and open my old files and such. But as I’ve gotten used to the ecosystem, replaced my old hardware with that which is Linux compatible out of the box etc. I’ve needed to do something weird less and less often.
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Flatpak and Appimages have risen in popularity. It’s easier to get the software you need, that runs on your distro, that is up to date and modern, even if it’s not very popular. Because a variety of software is available in these formats it’s easy to get what I need, be it commercial software, esoteric little stuff for my niche pastimes, etc.
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Yeah. Pretty much.
The worst part about free Linux programs is that they have 0 visibility or marketing.
Almost everything I know of is from other people whom are far more passionate about keeping track of the foss landscape.
Sorry, guys I don’t check AUR every night before bedtime.
I have 2 plugins for rofi on Linux and it’s true, no releases - best I can do for you is tags, take it or leave it
Where’s the meme
Be the change you want to see in the world.
I’m currently in the process of updating Slackware’s documentation, some of which hasn’t been touched in 12 years.
It’s completely out of date, so no one uses it anymore.
And because no one uses it, no one updates it.Look at the brightside: there’s no risk of an update resetting your progress
You’re doing “Bob’s” work son, thank you for your service!
As a devout SubGenius myself it is my destiny to use Slackware one day but alas I fear it is currently above my skill level, more documentation will help people like me greatly! PRABOB!
It’s easier to install and administer than Arch, and won’t break on updates.
But yeah, the current state of the documentation is discouraging.I’m more worried about package management I guess. Though I suppose now with flatpak that may be less of an issue. Still I use some weird shit, some of it is only packaged as a .deb or .rpm on their site, like the Brother printer drivers.
And yeah the documentation lol. I rely heavily on that or places like lemmy for linux help, which is why to start I picked a really popular distro with good documentation (fedora). It’s definitely something I’ll try one day though!
You can have a look at slackbuilds.org to see if what you need is available. It’s Slackware’s AUR equivalent.
You can install packages from there usingsbopkg
, which does handle dependencies.It does have the Brother drivers: https://slackbuilds.org/repository/15.0/system/brlaser/
Up-to-date documentation comes in the form of easy to understand text files written by Pat himself, that are installed with the distro. For questions, linuxquestions.org is the place to go. The main devs of the distro read and post there regularly.
That’s also what I love about Slackware. I wrote one of the main devs an e-mail and got a helpful, friendly reply half an hour later. That’s what Linux used to be like.Thanks! This inspires confidence! Seems like it won’t be so bad!
GitHub is a place you can use to easily put a copy of your code online. Many people just want to build a working solution and move on. Building a useful GitHub project, with fancy stuff like releases, is work that isn’t really solving any issues. Many people don’t like doing it. Many people especially don’t want to invest time in proprietary solutions like GitHub. They might not even accept pull requests on GitHub.
Quality assessment though 😄