M. 34. Unfortunately I will never get companionship, never being with a woman, so that means no kids, until recently i was doing a miserable job, now I’m unemployed. I don’t have friends and still living with my family since I can’t survive alone, we’re low class…

Seriously, what’s the point? Please don’t tell me to just live and go out there and explore the world, to leave everything behind, that’s not possible. I always despised “exploring” that’s why I stay in my room most of the time, even when I had a job. But I know how some of you will respond…

I guess there’s no point. Someone had to lose this fucking game.

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    It sounds like you have depression messing with your mind. I empathize a lot, since I’ve been in that place.

    The thing I will say is that most of the problems looming over you are paper tigers. They have far less substance than your mind is telling you they have.

    Unfortunately, the lesson I learnt was that no-one will actually help you. People will make a lot of nice noises, and will even accommodate you, but they won’t help. That needs to come from you. Don’t get me wrong, it’s terrifying, but it’s like neo taking the red pill. It’s not that he’s not scared, but that he knows the other option is not where he wants to be.

    Up until now, I’ve just been making nice noises, so onwards to some practical advice.

    Appearance.

    You mentioned you are a bit of a lock in. Often you can get your appearance slip, don’t let it. It can be as simple as keeping personal hygiene sorted, and wearing “smart” clothes when you go out. They don’t need to be expensive, just look nice. For men, a button up shirt and some chinos can make a huge difference to how others react to you.

    Socialising

    As painful as it is, social skills are a necessary tool of life. They also go rusty VERY quickly. This leads to a feedback loop that leaves socialising as a terrifying idea. Your goal should be to have a short conversation with a “stranger” every day. This could be as simple as asking a cashier how their day is going, or asking for directions from someone out and about.

    At this point you’re probably mentally whimpering “I can’t do THAT!”. You actually can, and most people will actually respond positively. The part of your mind saying you can’t is the problematic part. Recognise that it is trying to help, but that its advice is bullshit.

    Anchoring

    The above is the most basic stuff you should be aiming for. The most important thing however is to establish mental anchors. Think of them like the bolts climbers use for their ropes. Reaching them is hard, but once they are embedded, recovering from a fall gets a lot easier. You also preferably want several anchors. Sometimes they fail, it happens. If you only have one, that can cause problems, but if you have several, repairing the lost one becomes a minor annoyance.

    A good anchor is a commitment you can lean on and say “that’s a positive thing for me” even when you really don’t feel it. Groups, or periodic events work best. Meet-up is a good resource for finding things and ideas. Some more ideas below.

    Gym - a regular fitness regime does wonders for your mind. It also gives organic opportunities to talk to people.

    Sports - often cheaper than the gym, find a regular sport meetup and go along. Don’t worry about being completely rubbish at the start. Most people respect effort, and you will see the payoffs quite quickly.

    Martial arts - similar to the above, but a bit more formalised.

    Dungeons and dragons - one of the classic “weirdos unite!” socialising methods. If you’re polite, and followed the hygiene advice earlier, you’ll find most groups extremely accepting.

    Makerspaces - if you’re engineering/creative then these make excellent opportunities to socialise. I actually ended up establishing one. It turned out I wasn’t the only weirdo in the area who wanted somewhere to socialise on our terms.

    The pub - a classic, but often doesn’t fit a lot of people’s mindset.

    Cinema groups - cinema has gotten a bit expensive now, but once you have a job again they can be a good social event. You get to hang out with a group for a while, without needing to talk much. Once the film is over, you have an automatic topic of conversation.

    I’ll leave things there. Just remember, that voice in your head means well, but is lying to you. The looming monsters are paper thin, but only you can punch through them.

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      I won’t do any of that, because I have done a few of these things in the past. Still miserable and nothing changed. And most of the things you said don’t exist in my area anyways. Not like I would go.

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        That’s your choice. Just don’t expect others to change your life for you.

        And if it helps. I went through that cycle more than a few times. Put effort in, get nothing back then give up, and slip further. Even now, it’s a constant battle. I know where I will end up if I falter however, so I keep my foundations strong, even when the depression tells me it’s not worth the effort. Those anchors make it possible to pull myself back out of that pit of despair.

        Oh, and yes the initial climb out is exhausting, rewardless and terrifying. I fully understand why you don’t want to try again. I’m just saying that the climb isn’t infinite, and there’s firm footing further up.

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            Nothing is destined, the past is fixed, the present is happening, but the future is still ours to define.

            Don’t get me wrong, it fucking hard to even start clawing your way out. Even worse, you won’t see any benefits at first. Even just taking the first steps seem terrifying and hopeless.

            I’ve been in that hole, I still have that voice in the back of my head. There are 2 ways out, only 1 offers the possibility of happy moments.

            I personally decided (eventually) to say fuck it, and plough forward till I made it or it killed me. I had to go way past where I thought my limits were. But the voice was wrong, I was (and am) far more capable than it told me.

            If you want some advice on mental control techniques, I’ve a few that might help. I’d be happy to share if you want.