I will give apple credit, if you drink the kool aid and full send into their ecosystem? Their product line is almost unmatched.
But it all only works in exactly the way apple intended- so it really limits what you can do with such expensive pieces of equipment.
You first.
Privacy, security, reliability, creative focused design, powerful hardware and software, great customer support, ease of use from GUI to Terminal (zsh and bash)
I don’t
Because they’re not Google.
And dog shit isn’t cat shit but I still won’t eat that.
In this day and age you’re forced to pick either; choose.
Cope
Lmao
Nah.
I have:
- Pixel phone with GrapheneOS and no Google apps (yes, the Pixel is from Google, the irony isn’t lost on me); old phone was Motorola; hope my next phone is a Linux phone
- ThinkPad laptop running Linux
- custom Linux desktop
- Tuta for email
- DDG for search
The only Google stuff I use is Drive and maps, and I’m actively replacing drive with NextCloud.
There are more options, you can avoid Microsoft, Google, and Apple. Whether you want to is a separate issue.
We don’t control macOS, iOS, anti-libre software (it fails to include a libre software license text file, like AGPL), so it’s never private, secure or reliable. A great example of dangers to avoid. That’s why I like it. 🚩
Why I got a iPhone: I detest Google and I have had very bad experiences with Android devices losing software support after only a couple years - some not getting any major updates at all. My cell carrier also had a clear-out special going for the last gen models.
Why I got a Macbook: the Apple silicon Macs blow Windows laptops out of the water in terms of horsepower and battery consumption. Second-hand M1 and M2 devices can be picked up now for reasonable prices. It is a nice change of pace as Microsoft is completely butchering Windows.
Tons of laptops with top notch specs for 1/2 the price of a M1/2 out there, and they can have linux installed. The M series still has issues with applications running properly on them as well.
It’s funny that you brought up application compatibility when numerous creative tools I use don’t support Linux. I also did not buy my Macbook at full price.
I wouldn’t mind having a Linux laptop to tinker with some day, but it would not be a primary or secondary device for me.
I’m not saying linux is the end all be all, there is a reason the enterprise world runs on Windows still, but while I like my MacBooks from work, they’ve got a lot to be desired for the price. Non mac laptops have really caught up with design and hardware.
Tons of laptops with top notch specs for 1/2 the price of a M1/2 out there
The 13” M1 MacBook Air is $700 new from Best Buy. Better specced versions are available for $600 used (buy-it-now) on eBay, but the base specced version is available for $500 or less.
What $300 or less used / $350 new laptops are you recommending here?
The half-price laptops have 1/4th the battery life of an m1 which is the other reason OP likes it
Because windows is not preinstalled
Having been a Mac user since the late 80s I don’t like Apple per se, but the design ethos that seems to leak into other applications. This Ars Technica review from 2004 is a great example
This is an example of the best kind of peer pressure. There is simply a “climate of excellence” on the Mac platform. Any developer that does not live up to community standards is looked down upon, or even shunned. Commercial, open source, freeware, shareware, it doesn’t matter: pay attention to detail, or else.
This has definitely changed since the iPhone became their biggest product, but it still has a more polished feel than competitors.
Because I don’t use it
Because they are great in pies that you can have for dessert with some ice cream or a glass of milk.
I can’t say I like Apple exactly, but I like Mac OS a lot more than any version of Windows I’ve used recently (but not as much as Linux Mint on my notebook). The problem is that I worked until recently in video and graphic design fields and those are very Mac-centric. So I have stuck with it when it comes to desktops for quite some time. My next desktop probably won’t be a Mac because that’s no longer an issue (or at least not for now), but I plan on using this iMac until it’s just not practical to use it, so that might take a while. It’s an Intel iMac and it’s still chugging along just fine (admittedly, it’s only running Big Sur, but I don’t see a reason to upgrade).
I do also have an iPhone (I also use those until I can’t, so I currently have an 11 after having an XR until the battery started crapping out on me) for several reasons- one, I bought into the system before Android phones existed and invested a lot of money in apps and games that I would have to repurchase, two, the rest of my family has them which makes compatibility handy and three, so far, with the iterations of Android I’ve played with, I just prefer using iOS as an OS. I realize it’s more limited, but I just prefer the way it works. Maybe it’s just that I’m more used to it, but that’s still how it is.
So for me, I’ll probably stick with iOS for a while longer, but I doubt I’ll keep buying Macs for the same reason I doubt I’ll pay for an Adobe license anymore. It’s just not necessary for what I do.
Welcome to saying anything positive about Apple outside of an Apple community. PC/Android users like to downvote and condescendingly comment on anything positive about Apple, even when it’s the topic of the post. Notice how the top comments are always useless contributions about hating Apple? I think it makes them feel superior since they’re not dominating in market share. Lol
I didn’t even say anything all that positive beyond “I prefer using iOS to Android.”
It’s not just Android users or Windows users or whatever though, there’s silly tribalism across the tech world. The idea that having the choice of OSes is good and there’s nothing wrong with preferring one choice over another. I really feel like some people believe there should be some sort of monopoly without realizing that’s what they believe.
Agreed. I have nothing bad to say about Android other than it’s not for everybody. With great power comes great responsibility, and not everyone wants or needs full control of their daily driver. Personally, I prefer the mindless security over full customization on my phone. It’s like trading admin privileges for user.
Re the edit about the XR (I actually meant XS, I keep confusing them) battery, I did that and gave the phone to my daughter. Her phone was on its last legs anyway. I try to keep tech in use as long as I can if possible.
Sorry about that. I thought of it right after. I was hoping to get it in there before you to read it.
That’s a good move for the planet. Apple is very good about recycling materials for reuse, but there’s still energy consumption and some material loss in the process. The longer you can use tech the better it is for everyone.
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A while ago there was an article about how Apple is destroying a lot of its phones (old generation) instead of selling them at a low price.
It was also explained that in the facility where it was done a lot of phones were disappearing because employees were stealing them to use them.
So I don’t know if they’re so good about recycling ♻️.
I can’t find the article but it seemed legit.
Why you don’t? Nearly perfect desktop OS. Top-tier hardware. Unmatched ecosystem. Very few privacy issues. UNIX-like (BSD).
I would rather use a device from a hardware company than an ad company.
To be fair, the hardware is excellent. Overpriced as hell, especially considering that you can’t upgrade it yourself and the prices Apple charges for RAM and storage are ridiculous, but you can’t really argue with the quality. The locked-down, inflexible software and basically forcing you buy into the whole ecosystem if you want your devices to work together is the issue.
Well, I’ll go ahead and argue about quality then.
- butterfly keyboard nonsense
- macbook pro flexgate
- antenna-gate, or “you’re holding it wrong”
- any of Louis Rossmann’s videos recommending against Apple devices
Apple products are fashion devices that work pretty well most of the time. I don’t think they’re the best by any stretch, but they have a consistent design aesthetic and pretty complex engineering (and that complexity is where problems lie).
Anyway, buy what you like, just don’t delude yourself into thinking they’re a step above everything else. Google Pixel has a better camera, ThinkPads have better keyboards, and AMD MiniPCs (e.g. minisforum) are more compact. Buy what fits your needs, but don’t just knee-jerk buy Apple because it’s “better,” whatever that means.
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Their chip design is pretty good and they have the cash to buy up most of TSMC’s best production
