Kamala Harris gets it. Yes, we should fear Trump—but we should also mock him mercilessly, because it drives him nuts.

Donald Trump is in free-fall. Read this description from Sunday’s Washington Post of how the GOP nominee spent last week: “[A]ides did not want a situation where he was watching the convention every night, getting angry, and then just golfing all day and stewing, according to people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private interactions. Trump also had grown annoyed with the news coverage that depicted him as not working as hard as his opponent, one person who talked to him said.”

If you didn’t know that the article was about Trump and you just read it cold without knowledge of the context, you might think it was a description of parents trying to figure out how to handle an ungovernable four-year-old. So they convinced Trump to get out of Bedminster and hit the road, trading suck-ups with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In the past, Trump has called Kennedy the “dumbest member” of the Kennedy family and a “radical left lunatic.” Kennedy has calledTrump a “terrible human being” and “probably a sociopath.”

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    “The news is saying I don’t work as hard as my opponent. You know what I’ll go do? Golf some. That will show them how hard I work.”

    Every time i have a dumb idea i just have to remember there is always a bigger idiot in the world. That always makes me feel better.

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    Mockery is a bad thing except maybe against actual totalitarian dictators (but then maybe their danger should be shown honestly, not mocked). Mocking people overrides rational arguments.

    Also they mock whole nations when those are under threat. A lot of Nazi propaganda was mockery. A lot of Azeri propaganda is mockery of Armenians (when it’s Azeri-bought Russian and Ukrainian media, direct Azeri propaganda is more about threats and gloating than mockery).

    A two-edged sword. In a situation where Trump can’t win an election, maybe they shouldn’t use such poisonous means.

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        What’s failing? Polls tell us otherwise.

        And by the way, maybe they are competent. Maybe they are just fine with Dems winning the election.

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          Back in 2016 it was “Trump is dumb, and there’s no way Republicans would vote for him”. We mocked him while underestimating his dumbass fanbase. Now we need to directly mock Trump’s policies and attitude toward the presidency and those who support them, and not make them appear as some powerful threat (even though they are).

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        Trump’s output is just sewage, which makes it less harmful than something which is interpreted and repeated by rather intelligent people.

        Let’s please remember that the Republican party was responsible for a pole of actually valid ideologies (something like “RFK minus mental impairment”), the worst effect they have is that those ideologies are not represented by anyone practically electable. What they replace them with is the second worst effect.

        Mockery by its essence may very easily spill at those ideas.

        Discourse in politics should be respectful. Even if it’s not that now. That’s not touching upon the possibility of degrading into a single-party system, seeing how GOP is sinking.

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    Toxic masculinity always hates being laughed at. It’s that Margaret Atwood quote all over again. Too applicable when you consider complete abortion bans and project 2025.

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    How is the DNC this slow and clueless?

    You’re telling me that we could have been rid of him years ago if these dummies had just been parroting all of us making fun of him on social media?

    How are these giant conventions with billions and billions behind them so dumb?

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      Because their plan at the time was to allow (or assist) him to be propped up under the belief Clinton would then be a shoo-in. Which is a completely moronic strategy because if you lose you’re absolutely fucked.

      They probably never want to actually keep him from being a candidate because it means their candidates just need to meet the barest of minimums to be viable.

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      Because they assumed that the moral high ground would net them more voters than joining in the mud-slinging. “They go low, we go high” is a quite noble sentiment that should appeal to decent people to vote for them, if for no other reason than to keep the rude man-child out of office. They hoped that even the apathetic non-voters would be moved to cast a vote against the Temper-Tantrump.

      It didn’t work, as we know now, but I can’t fault them for remembering the times when class and dignity mattered and hoping to extend those times.

      Harris’ team seems to have learned that lesson. Here’s to hoping this actually works better.

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      Because the establishment ones are old as fuck and refuse to learn. Judging from the recent dnc, they’re letting young and progressive faces do some work which is fantastic. Maybe they learned, maybe Pelosi wants to focus on insider trading. Either way 🤷

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          I doubt it, but feinstein kicking the bucket did lower the average age in congress by about 100 years so there’s that.

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    It took them 8 years to realize what Thomas Jefferson found out in 1816

    “Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.”

    Bullies don’t like when you hit back because they base their power on the fact that they think you’re going to play by the rules while they’re free to break them. You so much as look like youre bending a rule and they’ll cry foul. Look at how Trump responded to Biden dropping out.

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      “Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.”

      I’ve never heard that quote before, but I love it.

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        Extra funny because Jefferson had plenty of unintelligible propositions himself, for which he was ridiculed while he was alive

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          Like what?

          (Not arguing, I just really need a refresher in colonial + early American history)

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            Like how you can own people if “all men are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

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              I think it makes more sense if you were mentally fucked up like they were. All men are equal, aka whoever they considered civilized races were aesthetically thought of as equal. Everyone deserves to be happy and to thrive, but of course lesser beastlike races can only do that under the yoke of their superiors.

              What a shitty “defense” though right? “He’s not a hypocrite, he’s just monstrously delusional by our standards.”

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                He also thought black people were incapable of being educated. Fairly late in life, he met a black person who actually had the opportunity to be educated, took it, and was every bit the equal to any educated white person. Jefferson took him as an exception to the rule.

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      I have taken to using my a quote of my own with people recently, on both sides in different situations. Quote: “Those who neither ascribe to nor participate in the social contract of tolerance are not afforded the protection it brings.”

      I say it to the right when they complain about me calling them out on their BS or making it known that they are generally shit human beings.

      I say it to the left when they try to call me out for saying that literal Nazis holding signs on the side of the road should have beverages thrown at them by passing cars at the tamest. I would prefer throwing much heavier objects, but the law protects them. The Law, not the social contract of tolerance. Within the confines of the law, people like that should not be tolerated and should be informed with as much force as possible.

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        Arguing with someone, within the confines of the marketplace of ideas, about how the marketplace of ideas should be abolished, is a fools errand

        If they refuse to even agree to the basic social ground rules of discourse whatever they have to say isn’t even worth entertaining

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        I believe the zero tolerance rules do help bullies, they’re the ones who’ve made a habit of playing jussst outside the rules but with enough deniability that they can feign ignorance. Zero tolerance is great at catching people who don’t make a habit of breaking rules though. Teachers always seem to notice when the quiet one does something, but a bully being a bully is just another day for them. Been a long time since I was in school though so grains of salt and what not.

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    That was no secret. He is acutely insecure and copes by keeping himself wrapped in a shell of mental gymnastics and denial about all of his shortcomings and inadequacies as a political leader and a grown adult instead of working at correcting them. Insecure people hate to have their insecurities exposed and mocked.

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    I feel like there’s an old school, ancient parable about laughing at the monster to make it go away that I’m trying to remember

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      Yup. He’s an old bully and absolutely cannot stand being made fun of. Watch his face when Obama and Seth made fun of this snowflake of a man.