I stopped getting my groceries at Kroger unless I need just a few items quickly (I have 2 less than 2 miles from my house). Most stuff is more expensive at Kroger than Meijer or even Walmart and if doing the whole list it ads a lot to my expenses
If you have a ruler foods it’s just stuff from Kroger but a lot cheaper.
Is price gouging illegal?
It’s supposed to be, but laws generally only kick in if there’s an emergency like an earthquake or hurricane.
Covid was a global emergency at one point.
Yup and the argument over if it qualifies or if they were doing it at the time is for the lawyers.
Oh good. Lawyers.
Right? My favorite. It’s not really something that’s enforceable on that level though. It would be easier to bring prices down by breaking up these large companies. And if that fails, just start a government grocery store that opens up in food deserts first, then in high cost of living areas. See what happens to prices when they need to justify people going there instead of the government store.
Depending on how the recenr precedent curtailing the agency of government agencies holds up, teams of lawyers presenting teams of scientists to judges with political agendas may become the norm.
Legally, criminalizing systemic food waste would be a good step.
only for the poors
Kamala is proposing making it illegal at the federal level.
And that’s why there is a portion of people who dislike Harris; they dislike anything.
No they dislike anything that sounds reasonable, logical and rational. Or they don’t like anybody who comes up with ideas that would take them 50 years to come up with. Everyone wants solutions now, not whenever you’ll get to it.
Harris will be painted as socialist/communist. It will be interesting to see how much stigma those labels still carry.
It’s almost meaningless nowadays since everyone is a socialist, according to them.
I mean it would be funny to turn the tables on their nationalist rhetoric by noting the USSR wasted a lot of resources on border security and stupid walls. We’ve gone from a country that celebrates walls coming down to a country that will never be satisfied with the worlds largest contiguous wall.
USSR wasn’t socialist either.
Maybe people just dislike cops and genocide?
Sounds like a realistic plan from a trustable person. \s
Some jackass economist will pop in and say that there’s no such thing as price gouging. That prices are set by market demand. It is true to an extent, because if people weren’t buying things at those prices, then the store would lower the price. The problem with groceries is that there isn’t really a price discovery method for the average person unless they go to every possible store and price compare. It’s not like you can go online and find prices for every option and alternative for groceries. People just assumed that prices have gone up due to natural inflation, which isn’t the case here.
Fuck Kroger
Anakin and Padmé meme: So we’re going to fine them that amount, or force them to refund it to their customers, right?
Right?
To be pedantic, in the meme format (as in the original movie), Padmé asks the same question twice. The second question is not just “Right?” https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/for-the-better-right
I’m not usually a stickler for adhering closely to meme “rules” but this one drives me batty. I never have the courage to correct folks though, so have your lemmy gold!
Why is Lemmy gold an undead pirate. Not that I have a problem with it
Bruh that’s Lemmy Killmister from Motorhead.
The question stands.
I’m honored! I’ll never have mutton chops like Kilmister’s, and I’ll gladly accept this honorary form of them instead.
I have altered the meme. Pray I don’t alter it more.
Oh goodness, you’re very good at getting my goat.
“Pray I don’t alter it any further.” https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-am-altering-the-deal
Yes, that was part of the joke.
Luke to Darth Vader “Anakin I am your son!”
Memes are fair game in this wretched hive of scum and evilitude.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of memes suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
Consequences!!?? No, we’re just telling you about this shit we found.
Why though, what did they do wrong? They’re allowed to set their prices how they like as long as they’re not coluding with competitors.
(I’m not saying it doesn’t suck, obviously, but they are just doing a capitalism)
Were this capitalism, the competition would simply win by offering lower prices, but Kroger was allowed to grow to monopolistic proportions so that they’ve either bought up any and all serious competition already, muscled rivals out of business or settled on quasi-gerrymandered spheres of influence with their equally monopolistic competitors, so that nobody undercuts them when they abuse their status to not offer the best deals, but instead price-gouge the people stuck in their sphere of influence.
When you say “wrong,” what do you mean? Are you arguing that their actions are morally just, or merely not too illegal?
Capitalism violently forces people to serve capital for food, shelter, and other basic human needs.
This situation is slightly worse than usual.
I’m questioning whether they did anything illegal. It’s quite obvious (to me, at least) that what they did is morally wrong
“Wrong” is certainly the wrong word, then.
Price gouging does run counter to some states’ consumer protection laws.
outrageous!
Maybe i’ll travel to Canada to shop at a non-Kroger grocery store in boycott.
Hopefully Kroger will pay the government a fine and continue to gouge the rest of us.
I got news for you.
I wish I could pirate food.
I mean, they give you a speedy cart with wheels and everything…
Not anymore. They recently added those locks that lock up the wheels when they get too far away from the store. And they also threw out all the shopping baskets.
they also threw out all the shopping baskets
I hate stores with a passion that do this. If I’m getting a basket amount of stuff why must I either juggle everything in my hands or shove a cart with broken wheels around?
Try farming
I live on the top floor of an apartment with no balcony. I wish I could pirate a house.
Replace your floor with garden plots.
Or maybe just go up to the roof? They said top floor.
I mean… you probably could if you became an actual pirate.
And yet they may still be allowed to
merge withassimilate Albertson’s, leaving so many neighborhoods with less (or even zero) choices for where tobuy groceriesget price gougedHopefully the colorado suit shuts that down
Yeah, he was literally bragging about it on the quarterly earnings calls as it was happening. They’ve only paused the price gouging now that it’s a hot topic, don’t think for a minute prices will go back down or that this won’t resume in a year or so when there’s some other distraction available.
We need regulations to stop this predatory behavior, and we desperately need to break up monopolies like Kroger, if this problem is to be mitigated.
Why break them up when you can just let them get bigger. I’d bet my job the fucking merger is still happening.
Lina Kahn has been going hard after monopolies lately. I will take that bet so long as she is FTC head.
What merger?
And Kroger is a monopoly? I see Walmarts everywhere. Target to a lesser extent. Definitely an oligopoly.
Kroger & albertsons\safeway. I’d still have Costco Walmart and winco but a lot of locations don’t have as much competition.
Of course it’s still happening, this is just a side puppet show to distract from that fact. Now they’ve realized most of the population would vote in an uneducated felon again, so they see they faked having a heart for nothing. Which was cutting into their profits all along.
Until there’s serious consequences and bankruptcy looming, they’ll continue shitting on us like we’re Japanese businessmen with a fetish.
Nono, you misunderstand! Prices going down is a very bad sign as it means something is very wrong!
-Every economist ever without explanation or clarification whatsoever
They don’t clarify, because if they did it would be clear who it’s “wrong” for.
Spoiler alert: It ain’t you and me.
The problem is we talk about the economy in terms like “revenue” “profit” or “prices”.
We need to change the language of the economy to appeal to its true creed: line go up. It’s Economics 101. Line go up, forever.
Hence, I propose we talk about the cost of things on units of “not getting fucked”
Use phrases like, “the not getting fucked on tomato sauce has been dropping lately”
What did that Heinz CEO say at one point when confronted about inflation prices for groceries?
“Get used to it”
That’s their attitude here.
I want to leave this planet so Bad…
I’ve always had a rule that all my decisions should be the ones that make my mother the most proud. Sometimes it’s a choice between two things she’d probably dislike (like getting a tattoo or a piercing), but I always do the thing that has the better chance of making her proud.
Recently I’ve started stealing from large evil corps. Not even gonna sugar coat it. I go to self checkout and just don’t scan things here or there. Whoops I left that thing in my cart. Whoops I left half of the bag of lemons off the scale and they rang up for 10c. Whoops, that eyeliner pencil fell into the unnecessary plastic wrap of that other thing and I didn’t scan it.
I recently mentioned this to my mum and she laughed. She was proud. Because fuck Kroger, fuck these companies gouging us, stealing our land and food and ability to sustain ourselves without giving them a cut. Fuck people who hoard money so hard that people fucking die because of it. Boycotting shitty companies is what makes mums proud.
If you see somebody stealing at a grocery store… no you didn’t.
I am very much against theft but if you are forced to check yourself out, I consider it wages.
I have no issues with mistakes happening in self check.
“There is not just one bad apple in this bunch,” Powers said, adding that most companies who engage in price gouging receive limited consequences.
Because customers generally still have choices to shop at other grocers like Walmart, Thompson said Kroger is unlikely to experience any severe consequences from the FTC.
Despite the fact that this is likely a larger problem in the grocery sector, Ryan said consumers could react swiftly with their wallets.
Yeah, and go to the next grocery store with the same prices and behind-the-scenes policies, and buy the same overprices eggs… But hey, at least they didn’t admit to the lie.
Unfortunately Kroger is the cheapest option where I am. I refuse to support the dumpster fire that is Walmart. Every item at Albertsons and Safeway, especially produce, is at least 50 cents more expensive than at Kroger. Too bad Trader Joe’s doesn’t offer a little more selection. You can’t even get a whole cabbage there.
Literally starving people for money. If there is a hell, they will go there 100% what shitty humans… Must be psychotic narcissist. How else would you sleep at night?
but don’t worry!, there will not be any negative consequences for him or his company!
They promise they won’t do it again.
The audacity we have to put this TiTAn oF iNdUStrY in a position he had to issue a promise
And now his workers are on strike
For all of these companies trying to merge the default answer should be no. Merging companies isn’t good for capitalism at all in any way so if any company wants to merge they should have to get special permissions. This shit is out of control.
Agreed. I have no issues with capitalism but I have a huge issue with monopolies. Just buying out the competition isn’t competing.
One of the possibilities would be a cooperative chain. They don’t go for profit so can seriously undercut these price gougers.
Hmmmm. Maybe, since all stores are doing this, we should just institute price fixing on certain goods? Oh but I forgot, that’d be bad for the corporation and their profits, and that’s obviously more important than citizens being able to afford groceries at a reasonable price.
