I’m one of the younger millennials (I think?).
I never carry cash unless I have to (for some reason dependent on where I’m going). I primarily use my phone to make payments, and I don’t have a traditional wallet, but I do have a slim card-holder that carries my debit card, driving licence and one or two other important cards.
Take that for what you will, I guess!
That’s a wallet bro.
Source: am millennial and have slim wallet
Gen Z here.
Do people really not have wallets now? There’s so much I can’t carry without a wallet, most importantly my ID. Am I expected to just put that loose in my pockets or bag?
And like, sometimes I’m forced to carry cash for one reason or another. I need a space place to put that.
I’m guessing it’s just because the majority of my generation isn’t old enough to be regularly encountering these issues. I’m 100% certain it’ll change as they age the way I was forced to.They have those card holder sleeves for their phones, which is essentially a wallet on a phone
Always found those funny because now if one thing gets lost/stolen you’re substantially more screwed. Although if you only carry one card and have tiny pockets, I get it.
That’d interfere with my wireless charger…
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Yeah sometimes classic ways are still best or you find you really don’t need something you give up for efficiency, just do you and it’s fine.
Elder statesman millennial here (38 at this point). There’s a pocket on my phone case. I have to carry a phone. Why not make my phone my wallet?
Phone wallets seem like such an older person thing to me vs regular wallets. It’s like admitting you won’t have your phone in your hand constantly so why not combine the two.
Also a handy way to lose your phone, ID, debit, and credit cards all at once! Why not combine all the worst things to lose that I carry into one losable, stealable package? Might as well clip the keys to them too!
Hold on, let me go @ popsocket… We’ll make that a thing yet!
Maybe add a thin string to the phone and attach the other end to person’s glasses? So when you lose your phonewalletkeyandglassesholder it wouldn’t make us four-eyed folks feel left out.
People rarely go out without their phones, so having their wallet in their phone case means they never forget their wallet.
The downside is if you lose your phone, you lose your wallet.
I’d rather have a separate wallet, but I get why it’s useful.
Born 1980. I don’t have a traditional wallet, but I do carry a combination card holder (which has my ID) and money clip. I think some people are simplifying that to ID in pocket and all payment methods on phone (tap or app).
Generations are mostly BS anyway. Carry a wallet or not according to your needs and preferences.
Reddit gets the weirdest comment upvoted sometimes? Might be bots? Or maybe the tweet is made up because I had a hard time finding that thread.
Assuming no maliciousness, upvotes are not the equivalent of truth votes, but what people want to believe is true or think probably is true.
And make no mistake about it, Lemmy is no different. Might even be worse when it comes to voting along ideological lines.
I have a lot of ID cards for various credentials, memberships, and store discounts, but I’m only 25, am I just behind the times???
You can just take pictures of the barcode for most of that stuff.
Or import into wallet app on phone. I use it for Winn Dixie for example.
i’m not gen z but i don’t have a wallet?
Where do you put your ice cream loyalty card that has 3 stamps and if you get 10 stamps you get a free ice cream?
I plan ahead and put it in my pocket if I’m going to get ice cream.
Everyone laugh at this guy, he doesn’t live in the moment
I just accept that living in the moment sometimes requires the sacrifice of ice cream stamps.
always in my back pocket
Yeah, as an older millennial, I was just carrying a phone in like 2013. No keys or wallet for most trips - just an ID and credit card in a phone case and a pin lock on the front door. That was before Apple pay was even a thing.
Gen Z is pretty cringe taking credit for the pocket minimalism movement I clearly started.
Wait my Zoomer buddy definitely has a wallet thicker that George Costanza’s. I’m starting to think the internet is just full of lies for making us hate each other.
for making us hate each other.
While it is true that certain old generation is hoarding most of stuff, it is rich class from that generation who hoard it. We as multiple generations need to come up with plan that prevents such iner- and intragenerational separation. And untangle neofeudalism mess current rich class created.
Agreed, it’s varying levels of culture war bullshit intended to keep the working class from unifying. The only thing that prevents it is awareness.
I’m a millennial and I got a bootleg ridge wallet from temu and I love it. I’ll probably get a real one if/when this breaks.
What does that say about me?
I have the real ridge wallet and love it too…just don’t waste your time with the tray
Like a huge tray to carry your stuff in? That might be fun, and smaller than my last wallet.
No it’s a tray that fits in the fridge for keys and such…it sucks.
?? Wat?
On their website…like one spare key or folded money
I was confused at the “fits in the fridge” part. Pretty sure it was a typo.
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I just throw my cards in my pocket lmao
Contemporary generational labels are as arbitrary as their boundaries, most of us just want to belong so we apply them to ourselves and say we must be X and they are Y, but you’re just as likely describing trends people from any generational category may follow than insight into actual characteristics of the group.
What, kids don’t carry drugs anymore? What is the world coming to
I have little drug pouch for that
Yeah, a wallet. But the kind with the zipper. You gotta carry ID on you depending on your lifestyle. Why make your drugs pouch different from your money and card pouch
I think it depends on where you are more than your age. I very rarely carry a wallet on me and I am definitely not Gen Z. That being said, where I live, every legitimate (i.e. non laundering/tax dodging) business accepts paying by phone. I can use public transport by scanning my phone, I can prove my ID by showing my phone, I can claim medical benefits by using my phone, and every franchise has it’s own loyalty app I can download on my phone.
That’s pretty horrifying. The perfect dystopia waiting for collapse when a server fails or a there is a network outage or infection.
If that’s going on I promise you have much bigger concerns than how to pay for some mcnuggets. The same thing can happen to any credit card processor as well. Not a bad idea to keep some cash at home, but for day to day, hour to hour stuff there’s no need to bring it anywhere.
Difference is, I get to eat my McNuggets.
The problem with that is that if you lose your phone while out and about, you’ve also lost all hope of paying for anything to get home.
Not that much different to losing your wallet before you could pay with your phone
phones can stop working
That’s true, I only relied on my phone until the first time it just didn’t work for no reason haha
No different from losing your wallet back in the day. Except I can log into my Google accounts on literally any Android phone (plus my yubikey) and get it all back.
Still, I will put a credit card in a different pocket sometimes when I am going out drinking just in case. If I’m really stranded I’ll call the police from that bar, say my phone was stolen and beg them for a ride.
i really dislike the idea that my life could come to a complete halt if my phone stopped working in the middle of the day.
Where I live, 90% of places have a working tap to pay, but 10% still need that chip to be entered.
Annoyingly, the convenience store chain (part of Circle K) that I buy snacks at, tap to pay only works for credit cards not debit cards.
Good ? Never use debit cards. They aren’t subject to the same fraud protections…
Why the fuck anyone would think giving anyone direct access to their banking account is a good idea. Sheesh.
Not sure why down votes, this is financial security 101. Some debit cards have gotten with the program but… Still cringe. I do keep one on me but it’s a free account I keep a bit of cash in, not where direct deposit goes to.
It’s almost cult like, some people’s “attachment” to debit cards. I’ve been called all sorts of things for pointing out how BAD it is to use them for everyday transactions.
Literally Home Depot is the only place left which doesn’t have phone payments, and they really need to get with the fucking program. I wish more people would shame them for this.
I don’t have wallet, but I pay mostly with cash and carry social(student) card that works as public transport ticket and also works as state healthcare card.
and every franchise has it’s own loyalty app I can download on my phone.
I don’t see it as benefit at all
Gen X. Don’t use a wallet. Where do I fit in to this theory?
In my country you need to carry a few cards, such as ID and drivers license. So yeah, at least i need something to carry those.
The theory is about millenials having wallets. You’re not a millenial and you don’t have a wallet. No contradictions here.
The outlier with a credit score under 700 and cashless, probably uses apple pay.
Gen Xers love wallets. Back in the '90s, you had to have a wallet so you could wear a wallet chain.
Wallet in Fanny pack gang, rise up!
Lol, I have to carry my insurance card, ID, debit and credit as well as purchase and travel cards for work along with when I’m at a work site I need to carry my hotel key.
You kids and your government tracked money. I buy too many things for cash to not have a wallet.
I was a always cash guy, Corona made me a card person, I still refuse to use my phone for it because it’s enough that Visa knows everything I buy, no need for Google to know it as well. Also bizarre that we become a no cash society at the same time authoritarian regimes pop up left and right…
I use my debit card a lot but I really like flea markets and junk sales and they are often cash only. I also get cash from metal scrap and it’s my “walking around money “
I’m a young Millennial and I don’t understand why you wouldn’t carry a wallet. Mine is a slim front pocket one, but I need somewhere for my ID and cards. I despise phone wallets and I use tap-to-pay where possible, but not everywhere accepts them for some reason. I also don’t carry cash because I’m not a Boomer. If I’m buying/selling something off Craigslist or whatever, I just use Venmo.
Who doesn’t use a wallet? Are they referring to those card holders and not calling them wallets?
I keep a service key for my work van in my wallet. I carried a card clip for a while with my license and credit card, but after locking myself out of the van for the third time my then boss handed me a wallet, a door key, and said “never call me locked out again”.
Still use a wallet today
Kids. They don’t need most cards and the few ones they need, they can easily have on their phone in their Apple/Google Wallets.
When they get older they will realize at some point thar they will need cards that arenot available digitally
I haven’t used cash in like a decade, but I still need to carry my cards, ID and insurance cards just in case. Where else do people carry things?
A lot of them actually have phone wallets for holding cards.
I’ve seen a lot of people carrying all that in their phone case, where they can conveniently lose every single scrap of personal information at once.
I know. The lack of redundancy gives me the shivers.
I started using cash again a couple years ago because I’m tired of every POS terminal begging for tips, even when the cashier isn’t performing any sort of service.
in europe, you can use your phone to pay on all of the same machines that take cards. your phone just mimics being a physical card
also, in some countries, you can have your ID on your phone through government apps. i never need to carry anything other than my phone where i live
edit: also, just for the record, i want you to know that having your cards locked digitally in your phone is more secure than having a wireless card in your physical wallet
The ID on the phone thing is weird. Like I’m gonna give my phone to a cop when they ask for my ID. That’s a nope from me. Same reason why I still print out my car insurance cards even though the information is on my phone. I ain’t giving my phone to a cop for any reason.
In the US, not every merchant accepts phone payments, so we still have to carry physical cards around. Your patronizing tone was unnecessary.
The ID on the phone thing is weird. Like I’m gonna give my phone to a cop when they ask for my ID. That’s a nope from me.
That just seems like a privacy nightmare. No one touches my phone. There’s way too much personal info on there to hand over to anyone, much less cops.
infosec.pub - user instance checks out. And I’m with you, it’s awful for privacy. I’ll keep using the plastic card.
i am sorry if i sounded patronizing, i promise you that’s not even remotely what i intended. i was just trying to give you a non-american perspective in a neutral tone, but i must have failed that
i think you’re misunderstanding how cards on phones work in the EU. if the card reader that you’re interacting with accepts wireless cards, it will also accept your phone. i’ve never visited the US so i don’t know how it works over there, but here in europe, there are no “apple pay” or “google wallet” stickers/requirements on the terminals. it just shows a universal “wireless cards” symbol, which means that anything NFC will work
The ID on the phone thing is weird. Like I’m gonna give my phone to a cop when they ask for my ID.
You don’t do that. You present the cop a QR code generated on the fly by the ID app when selecting “show ID” (or driver’s licence, in our country) that they then scan with their equivalent app or device. You don’t physically give them the phone. At least that’s the idea.
Like in many countries (traffic or street) cops here barely have a high school education and it’s not unusual for them to be too stupid to be able to scan a QR code. So carrying your plastic cards with you is prudent.
Having an unlocked phone anywhere near a cop is a bad idea considering they can just grab it. There are stories of them using people’s handcuffed hands to unlock phones with fingerprints against the wishes of the phone’s owner so I definitely wouldn’t put it past them to grab it out of your hand.
People who value privacy and want to support small vendors and businesses also carry cash, nothing to do with being a Boomer
Well, I definitely fit in the box, got a leather billfold wallet. I’d say I feel like I’ve got several good reasons to:
- we don’t have digital ID in this country
- For some reason we sometimes get issued paper tickets for the train rather than QR code tickets
- I’m sometimes out all day and late into the evening and don’t want a dead phone stopping whatever I’m doing
- I go to enough other countries where you can’t get away without using cash
- (Least of all) I find those metal slim wallets to just be a bit ugly looking personally
Youths in my country have their debit card between their phone and phone case.
So if someone robs your phone you’re doubly fucked? Also wouldn’t that mess with using the phone payments?
Am I the only one who never uses phone cases?
We’re a rare breed it seems. I don’t like the extra bulk and I paid for a high end phone I don’t want to feel a $20 case.
I’m a clumsy bastard and my insurance is £100 excess per phone repair. Last time I went without a case I think I smashed the screen 3 times in less than 2 years, so the odd £20 case has saved me a fair bit of cash over the years
Forget the cost. I don’t want the inconvenience. I hate dealing with broken phones.
have fun paying for high end repairs when you inevitably drop it i guess?
How about having user-replacable back cover?
Not sure I follow. I would definitely enjoy a return to user serviceable devices, including a removable battery compartment. The phones that offer these capabilities are few and far between and often involve unacceptable tradeoffs on other features.
I haven’t minded the extra bulk from cases used, but I also don’t use Otterbox or their alternate equivalents or have a high end phone. I’ve had a case for every smart phone since I’m a clutz sometimes and nervous about breaking it. To each their own 🤷 . But regarding the original topic, I’d feel weird without a physical wallet after so many years of using one.
