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That was quick.
I’m honestly amazed they didn’t have ads out of the gate, Meta’s whole schtick is advertising and data.
They thought they could EEE the fediverse first.
Turns out people on decentralised social media aren’t totally fucking brain dead and could see it coming a mile away.
What does EEE stand for?
lol. I mean. It was inevitable considering every other shit meta product.
As someone not using Threads this is a big surprise. I mean I’m surprised it didn’t already have ads.
Is Threads even a good enough product for users to be willing to endure ads?
No, now that Bluesky is around I’ve stopped using Threads altogether.
Blue sky getting ads in 3, 2, 1….
AHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
BlueSky is next
BlueSky has some novel monetization concepts but yes, I think they will eventually find that those are not sustainable and will introduce ads eventually.
How hard is it to run a platform charging a couple dollars a month so that you don’t need to turn into a ghoulish capitalist nightmare? Like, really. If even one of them went the “no ads, ever, just a tiny monthly fee” wouldn’t that be better? Wouldn’t everyone flock there? Is everyone so dumb that they think these huge sites will run for free?? No… wait I think I’ve answered my own question…
social media depends on having a critical mass of users, and that’s only going to happen with a free model.
Yes. I perhaps should have stated the other way round.
What about “ethical” social network. That’s free and ad based if you want that. And the ads are present but less manipulative because the goal is to cover costs not maximise profit.
And then that’s a premium option if you want to have no ads and full control of your content feed.
The reason Facebook and co don’t offer this is because they apparently make massive amounts from each user ($68). And that only because they engage in whatever ghoulish behaviour get people locked in enough to deliver that
An ethical social network wouldn’t have to drive as much per user, because it would publicly limit itself to modest profit. Covering free use with ads presumably possible. Cost of premium being running cost + modest profit seems like it wouldn’t be that high surely?
theoretically, sure it’s possible. but in practice, capitalism will win out in the end. this is pretty much what happened to reddit. first unobtrusive non-targeted ads, then reddit gold… you know the rest.
I think capitalist ghoulishness dominates innovation at the moment. Because massive resources will always be ahead doing new things. But at some point - I hope - a fairly agreeable social network becomes a sort of ‘solved problem’. Perhaps some FOSS version becomes available that’s not cutting edge but gets the job done. It would lack the sophisticated needed to coerce people and milk their attention, but that’s not needed for our purposes.
The appeal in popular social networks isn’t innovation, it’s the sheer quantity of other users. You don’t need resources just to do new things, you need resources to build and maintain the infrastructure to serve all those users. That’s why FOSS social media will always be niche like Lemmy and mastodon.
Remember to send financial support to your server
Wish I could, but I haven’t found a way to do that. I guess the admin is working on it?
Check the About section for your server like this, not every server has donations set up tho https://thebrainbin.org/about
Is this some fancy way of saying “Please tip your waitress”
Please tip your federatress
My instance preemptively defederated from Threads, but I’m assuming those ads are going to be served to Threads users via API, right, and not federated out?
If Meta threw up ads as ActivityPub objects they’d probably be blocked so fast by every instance.
I got out just in time, it seems.
How much longer will Bluesky survive without doing the same?
That didn’t take long
That was quick. They better not federate those ads
Ill federate this dick in their mouth
Federating ads sounds like a very quick way to get everyone else to defederate with you.
Threads is still around?
Does Threads use Fediverse tho?
It does
It uses activity pub, it’s not part of the fediverse. It’s getting defederated by everyone else because of Metas lack of moderation abilities among other issues.
