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Polish Tourism Minister Sławomir Nitras has called for a Tesla boycott following Elon Musk’s remarks urging Germany to “move past” its Nazi history.

Musk’s comments, made during a far-right AfD campaign event, sparked outrage, particularly in Poland, which lost 6 million people in WWII.

The controversy comes ahead of Germany’s February 23 election and just before Musk’s Tesla earnings call.

As a key advisor to Trump, Musk’s stance could impact Tesla’s market position in Europe, where historical remembrance remains a sensitive issue.

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    5 days ago

    As a Pole: Its funny to see hoe people in Poland is viewed by other countries vs how its actually viewed.

    1. Soon government starts program of subsidizing buying new EVs. Teslas are not excluded. Its basically poor financing rich’s new cars.

    https://www.gov.pl/web/nfosigw/program-naszeauto-do-40-tys-zl-doplaty-do-samochodu-elektrycznego

    1. Main opposition party demands deposition from minister who made unfortunate slip of the tounge and didnt immediately correct herself on international conference on 80th anniversary of liberating of the largest concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau. “In the territory occupied by Germany, Polish Nazis built camps that were labor camps, which later became mass extermination camps.”

    https://www.pap.pl/aktualnosci/obozy-zbudowali-niemcy-polskich-nazistow-nie-bylo-barbara-nowacka-przeprasza-za

  • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Yes, let’s forget the colonial past and what we used to do to people coming from Africa that moved to the Americas.

  • JoYo 🇺🇸@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    it’s only been 80 years, these motherfuckers can’t get over the US civil war after 160 years.

  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The only way for Germany to move past its Nazi history is not to forget it but to learn from it. For Germany to truly move past its guilt it must:

    1. Ban the AfD (they’re in the process) and ensure Europe is free of fascists
    2. Guide Europe toward a bright free future (they are doing this)
    3. Protect Europe from its threats and ensure no nation will ever devisate it again (they’re in the process, hopefully they can establish a federal European military)
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    6 days ago

    I keep getting this feeling that Musk is a stooge and he sacrificed himself/was sacrificed with the Nazi salute thing as a distraction.

    He doesn’t give a shit about Tesla tanking, as long as he can use his new connections to ride the stock market waves through some well-planned trades (i.e. insider trading).

    These guys can insider trade all they want now. Who the hell is gonna stop them? Nancy Pelosi? Lol.

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      Nah, he’s looking higher than just money. He was making a bunch of moves that the MAGA folks weren’t happy about, such as getting into fights with Laura Loomer over the specifics of how they’re going to fuck over everyone. A little hand gesture at a rally, and suddenly all those people are lining up to defend him.

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    One of my first thoughts about Musk’s support for the AfD was that maybe we can trick these idiots into buying Teslas. That at least would be good for the environment

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    I would say he’s right if he meant Germany would move past it’s Nazi guilt, stop funding a goddamn present day genocide and arrest the perpetrators of the currently ongoing one, like the ICC has told them to do.

    Can you imagine, Germany standing against genocide one of these days ? That would be a grand step forward.

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    6 days ago

    Very few reasons to get a Tesla when Lucid exists. I can think of three good ones— price, software reliability, and concerns about the company’s health— but these aren’t enough to overcome the icky feeling of funding Musk and his aspirations for me.

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    As an aside, I love the irony of that speech. Musk tells the wannabe Nazis that they can forget about the sins of their (great)grandparents.

    The idiots of the AFD want to forget the past simply so they can repeat it.

    They want to repeat the sins of their forefathers, they just don’t want to be reminded of the consequences that followed.

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      I somewhat disagree. They don’t want to forget, they want to finish the job. They have immense pride in something they should feel shame for. That, I think, is the issue. The unwillingness to feel shame, so they replace that feeling with over-zealous pride.

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      I had the same question with Trump copying so many of his political plays from 1930s Germany… does he… does he know how the story ended?

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      Still grandparents in a lot of cases. I’m 40 and my grandfather fought the Japanese in WWII.

      Plenty of people left on this planet who had grandparents on every side of that war.

      Or maybe your parentheses was meant to cover both.

      Yeah it was.

      Fuck it. I typed it. Maybe some other idiot will read it wrong.

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    6 days ago

    He’s right we should move past the guilt and onto whatever it is that strips modern day Nazis of their wealth for reparations.

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    6 days ago

    Any democratic society should boycott Tesla until Musk is removed from the company.