President in effect endorses ethnic cleansing of territory before hosting meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu

Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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  • superkret@feddit.orgEnglish
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    5 hours ago

    In 1940, the Nazis’ plan was to relocate all Jews to Madagascar.
    Just 2 years later, they started exterminating them systematically.

  • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
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    5 hours ago

    Americans making this about Trump vs Kamala is getting really really annoying. I mean, we get it, you are pissed off at each other. We’ve read the same arguments dozens of times already, and at this point it is getting extremely tired. It sucks the oxygen out of every conversation. Is this what the discourse is going to be around Palestine and Israel the next four years?

  • shadowfax13@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    6 hours ago

    comment section full of spineless beggars who wants everyone to live on fake crumbs thrown by dnc hacks. what’s biden, harris and pelosi doing these days ? they seems to have made fortunes pretending to represent us and now enjoying themselves leaving us and palestinians to get fcked same as under biden. are we all forgetting biden hugging the scum netanyahu and him getting a standing ovation for murdering millions with our money.

    aipac owned kamala would be no different other than wording it with lots of word salad of “allies”and right to defend (genocide).

    reality is our country has became a rotten oligarchy owning both parties and they see normal voters as no different than how israelis see palestians. they will happily butcher us and our kids for an extra yatch

    • Hobo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 hours ago

      Yep the DNC isn’t great but it’s far better then actively feeding the country to the oligarchy. Go fuck youself with the BoTh SiDeS bullshit.

      • shadowfax13@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        5 hours ago

        cry all you want but its not going to change that millions of past dnc voters want to see likes of pelosi and schumer hanged in the streets than blackmailed into voting for them again. just so they can continue to make millions selling the country to same oligarchs while we keep eating shit with a different packaging.

        • Hobo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          5 hours ago

          Do you understand how Senators are elected? The VAST majority of DNC voters didn’t vote for Pelosi or Schumer because they aren’t in their districts.

          Maybe pay attention to the road so you don’t accidentally drive your tank into those civilians, again.

  • sozesoze@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 hours ago

    The amount of hatred against phantom leftists that on the one hand lost the Dems the vote and on the other were too weak to have their demands considered is crazy.

    No, these people didn’t lose you the vote. They don’t even exist in this ambivalent form. It was everyday citizens that heard Democrats push the same racist border talking points Trump spewed last election and went “Hm, if even the Dems say this is a problem, I’ll vote the party that talked about how evil Migrants were for decades, the GOP”. It’s people tired of increasingly struggling to make ends meet and the Dems saying everything will stay the same, while Trump promised them change. We know that he just means destroying the last remnants of social security nets for poor people and everything that stands in the way for oligarchs making kaijulllian dollars. But people are stupid and desperate. Why can’t the Democratic party be held to a higher standard than whatever this is?

    • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 hours ago

      The Dems are constantly held to a vastly higher standard. This was true when trump first came to power too.

      Hillary: competent politician, could have smiled more maybe, no big changes.

      Trump: grab em by the pussy, pay hush money to porn stars, ramble incoherently.

      Public: what about her emails?

      • sozesoze@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        4 hours ago

        No, they aren’t. Expecting the Dems to get the vote by not being the fascists is a low standard. They have to present more than that. They didn’t, in fact, and now the party blames leftists for not voting hard enough when it’s their failure.

        Jesus, when Luigi Mangione allegedly killed that healthcare CEO, it showed how the entire country liked seeing that, and the Democratic party has no idea what kind of campaign they could maybe run? I’m not saying they should run on a billionaire purge platform, but c’mon, maybe use your one billion dollar campaign funds for sending a message for you and not against the other one. Instead we got a 25k grant for a house purchase if you jump through three hoops. Wow, inspiring stuff.

        And Hillary Clinton being characterized as making “no big changes” tells the whole story here. Her opponent went on a “drain the swamp”, “we’re going to make America great again” campaign and building up a hispanic and muslim scape goat. Everyone who is educated knew these were lies, but people were bad off, even then, and needed change. To be a hawkish candidate in a war exhausted society who runs on nothing but trying to achieve the first female presidential office is a weak attempt at saving America from Trump.

        • Dkarma@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 hours ago

          Keep telling yourself that…even if she did it wouldn’t have any affect on the gio primary

  • Mrkawfee@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 hours ago

    Trump is just saying the quiet part loud. The Democrats aren’t any different. The last 15 months of genocide proves this.

    Americans need to face facts, your country is a bloodthirsty empire that steals the resources, freedoms and conspires against oppressed people.

    • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 hours ago

      I don’t think anyone in Palestine is fighting for freedom as most would understand it. They will be free from Israel but that population isn’t going to be free like Belgians are free.

    • hark@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 hours ago

      The democrats were already funding billions of dollars worth of leopards in Gaza. This narrative that Muslims voted for this is disgusting when they really had no choice in the matter regardless of what a joke of a “democracy” we have pretends. Why do you think democrats refused to let them speak at the DNC?

  • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    8 hours ago

    Accelerationism has made things worse for everyone. Now we have a US president who has declared his intention to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip of Palestinians. If you want things to get better then you have to act in a way that is useful to that end. That means voting for parties that are to the left of fascists and that have a chance of winning. In the US, that’s the Democrats.

    • Krauerking@lemy.lolEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      This is not a particularly helpful message for the time being since the election is past and won’t be for a while at best.
      This is more a wish on what could have been and leaves little room for current discourse when this is a dead end topic.

    • Ghosthacked@lemm.eeEnglish
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      6 hours ago

      I don’t think that legitimate elections are happening in 4 years. They’re gutting everything and installing their flunkies just as they said they would in p2025.

      The last election is where democracy died.

    • sozesoze@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 hours ago

      You can’t make the survival of democracy hinge on everybody having to vote for you because else it would be getting even worse. You actually have to present an option that promises that things get better. Significantly even, since most people in the US are absolutely struggling.

      • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        7 hours ago

        As voters we had the opportunity to prevent fascism for four more years by voting for neoliberals. This would have given progressives and socialists another opportunity to co-opt the Democrat party. The failure of the Democrats to provide a compelling alternative does not mean we should be complicit in our own destruction and allow fascists to murder us.

        • sozesoze@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          4 hours ago

          I’m seeing a lot of voter bashing but the same Democrats in power. I get the criticism against voters. They should have voted neoliberal. But the Democrats set this vote up to fail. They just don’t seem to get any consequences for it.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      8 hours ago

      I am afraid that the time to vote your way out of this is at an end. There is no way Republicans will willingly give up all three branches of government.

      • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        8 hours ago

        I am afraid that the time to vote your way out of this is at an end. There is no way Republicans will willingly give up all three branches of government.

        Musk has control of the US Treasury Department payment system. Obviously not. Fascists don’t hold elections.

        I’m trying to get people to act in their own self-interest. It may be too late for us, but someone might learn something someday. People who survive the collapse of the US and climate change might make better choices.

        If we don’t tell people what went wrong here they will do it again.

  • Freefall@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 hours ago

    Single-issue voters, when EVERYTHING was at stake, deserve all the hate they get, but are too stupid to understand. The worst kind of trumpers, ones that don’t think they are.

      • elflakoinri@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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        6 hours ago

        The voters of the usa are the assholes who help a facist to win, voting for this asshole or not voting for any candidate and let a facist win, if you only have two options in an election, a shit politician vs a facist you always vote for the shit politician but i read a lot of shit excuses of US assholes that they be almost forced to vote for a facist, now you have a shit facist as president so yes, is your fault

        • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 hours ago

          now you have a shit facist as president so yes, is your fault

          I am not American. But putting that aside, US has a fascist president because the so called better choice decided it is better for a fascist to be elected president than to do what voters asked for, like not supporting fucking Genocide.

          How much better are the Democrats really, if they themselves did not care about handing the presidency to Trump?

          It’s years of voters willing to vote for the “lesser evil” that allowed both parties to field shittier and shittier candidates. Because it’s not as bad as the other guy and people will vote for lesser evil. So now you have two options that should have both been completely unacceptable in any civilized society and you still pretend to be morally superior, because your completely evil candidate is slightly less evil then the other one.

          • elflakoinri@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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            5 hours ago

            Im not from the usa, but i know if i need to choose between a facist an a piece of shit i prefer the piece of shit, you punch facist, fight agains them, do whatever to dont give then any kind of power but you came to give me excuses to support a facist, and please dont came to me to say about the evil of the usa because a know very well, their shit my country too, never support a facist or give then an opportunitty

            • dontbelasagne@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              3 hours ago

              If you are given a choice between two mouldy foods, most sane people would say “I don’t want any of them.” even if one is less mouldy than the other. We need to start saying no when given the option between two mouldy foods so we can have better foods,

            • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              5 hours ago

              My point is that Democrats enabled a Fascist to have any chance of winning and seem to have no regrets about it. Any half competent candidate should have run laps around Trump, a convicted felon and known rapist. As long as they keep supporting the democratic party and making excuses for it despite that, stuff like this will keep happening. They need to find a way to hold their party accountable. Blaming the voter is the absolute opposite of that. I say this not to encourage anyone to vote for Trump, but to make people stop wasting time blaming the voters and start holding Democratic party accountable.

        • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          5 hours ago

          Who do you blame for climate change? The sun, chemistry or humans releasing chemicals to the atmosphere?

          Arguably all 3 contribute to climate change, but only the last one is something you can change. So you blame humans, because it is the only productive option.

          In an election, you can blame the party that lost or the voters. Blaming the voter is about as productive as blaming the sun, distracting from what changes have to happen in the Democratic party to guarantee a win in the next election.

  • FriendBesto@futurology.todayEnglish
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    11 hours ago

    In fairness, this is BS. A leaked Israeli paper from early 2024 stated that that IDF and the Israeli’s government overall goal WAS to remove all people from Gaza. Once and for all, if they could get away with it. The fact they systematically destroyed whole towns and places of culture educates us and reinforces that this was the plan all along. Trump is an Israeli puppet, nothing changes there, but the removal of people and the destruction of Gaza was the Israeli plan all along. This was known.

    It is THEIR land. Their home. Why should they be shipped anywhere? That is an outright crime.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    12 hours ago

    god damn the liberal smugness in this thread is revolting

    you’re seeing a fucking genocide being orchestrated right before your eyes and all you can think of is “well at least I voted for the slightly less worse party” ???

    go fuck yourselves