• Margot Robbie@lemmy.world
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    That’s the reason most big name actors have their own production companies to work on their own movies, you have way more control over your own role compared to being just another actor on set.

    In any case, I think the audience still recognize great performances by individual actors even if the end product is badly reviewed or didn’t do well at the box office, and there are lessons to be learned from the “Suicide Squad” and “Amsterdam” and “Babylon” until you finally get a “Barbie” against all expectations.

    I hope he finds his own “Barbie” too.

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      And hopefully his “Barbie” is the Warhammer project he’s trying to get off the ground.

      That has the potential to be so much fun if done properly.

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        Iirc, he negociated to have executive producer role for the thing, so that should help.

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    The only way to win is to sit down in that producer role, raise a fargton of money for your idea and teach others to bring your idea to life. You have to UNTEACH them all the Marvel/Disney way of boring, politically correct pandering to the lowest denominator. I’m only sad that this means Cavill will have less time for acting.

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        The show runner insisted on telling “their version of the story”.

        Which… let’s put it like this:

        If you’re making a TV series about a book series written by a world famous author, and you think you can do a variation / “your take” on the story, because you think you’re just that great of a writer, artist, director, etc., then you better actually be on his level.

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          Say, for example, Kubrick and The Shining or Ridley Scott and Blade Runner or Jackson and The Lord of the Rings, as opposed to Shyamalan and The Last Airbender or Jackson and The Hobbit.

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            The Hobbit wasn’t Jackson’s fault. The studio was going to make the movies in that time frame with or without Peter Jackson, so he chose to helm the crashing ship.

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              It’s true, that wasn’t an entirely fair comparison, but I was thinking about disastrous adaptations, and that one sprang to mind.

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              And without him they were threatening to have the production leave NZ, which would’ve put a bunch of his friends out of the job.

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    I am here for the Henry Cavill circlejerk. Did you know he is a gamer? He even built his PC! Dude I love Henry now! Henry good, everyone else bad.

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    He didn’t leave though. he was unceremoniously dropped as is usually what happens in ‘corporate crossfire’ which only adds to the meme as he manages to get back up and sell out another show each and every time Disney and Netflix shits the bed. Which just goes to show you who the real problem with their own products is.

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    The Witcher had so much damn potential, I absolutely loved the casting all around not just him (yen was mid tho)

    I’m still salty

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      Both Yemefer and Triss were poor choices in my opinion. But I would have watched it regardless if there was anything of substance to watch after the first season.

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    Sounds to me like he should be given veto power in projects he gets hired on to. I didn’t mind the Witcher because I hadn’t gotten very far into the lore myself and didn’t see how much it had gone off the original path, but I’m kinda tired of producers and directors taking an existing story but then changing huge parts of it.

    There’s nothing wrong with telling your own story but enough with the bait and switch ones. Give it your own name, don’t leech off of the name recognition of already loved stories.

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      I dont mind changing the original story if done well. Some things only work in one medium or sometimes the adaptatipn just does things better. Good example is the boys. The comic is an absolute cringe fest while the shows is really good.

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      I personally am not a rabid Witcher book fan — I swear, some folks think they are the best literature out there and they very much are not — but in their quest to make Yennefer a more fleshed out character, they screwed up her motivations and priorities. She’s supposed to be like a mother to Ciri. I did not watch season 3 but it was not looking good for their relationship at the end of season 2.

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        I stopped at the same point and for the same reason. Season 2 Yennifer didn’t even seem congruent with Season 1 Yennifer.

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          I think I see the direction they wanted to go. Show that she’s still obsessed and starting to fray at the edges, but then give her a redemption when she realizes she doesn’t need a biological child when she has Ciri right there as a daughter. It’s just that every show like this seeks to have to be CW’ed these days. It’s a big reason why I had to drop Supernatural too. It worked really well for 5 seasons. But after that, the 3rd time the brothers fought about X and the 6th time they kept Y secret, I realized there was never going to be any development past this and had to step away. It’s exhausting.

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        They did try to fix the Yennefer/Ciri relationship in S3.

        But it suffers from the same problem with the other seasons where the writers are too busy trying to be clever to just tell the story. Like they show a party where a bunch of random shit happens then they later show a bunch of flashbacks to explain what the hell happened. You can imagine them all congratulating themselves in the writer’s room on how brilliant they are to come with telling it that way.

        They introduced a new character who’s either a bad actress or poorly directed. Or both. There’s one scene where she’s holding a dead pheasant and I’m not sure if she was posing or waiting for the director to say “cut”. Either way it’s awkward and cringey as hell.

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      Snyder was testing actors by making them put on the old Chrisptoher Reeves suit and Cavill was one of the few actors that looked as good in it as Reeves did

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      And I sometimes get crap for this but Batfleck was pretty good too. Those movies had issues, oh my yes, but the casting for those 2 roles was not one of them. Luthor, on the other hand…

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        Probably a hot take, but I think Batfleck was the closest we’ve gotten to a comicbook accurate Batfleck’s size and build were correct (physicslly imposing, could have been a bit taller), he was intelligent, mostly broody, and could fight. There are some things that could have been better (being a martial artist instead of being a brawler), but of all the movie incarnations so far I’d say he’s the closest.

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          Honestly the scene with him going after the warehouse full of baddies to save Ma Kent was the closest live action version of cartoon Batman ever, and it was glorious.

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        Superman has always been a bit of a boring character, which IMO is hard to write for to make interesting beyond the origin / coming of age story.

        I think screwing up Batman is a lot more offensive. So much good lore and villians to work with.

        IMO, Affleck played a terrible Fatman. He wasn’t dark and brooding, he was wooden and boring. It wasn’t just the story, but Afflecks portrayal of the character.

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        Honestly, if Jesse Eisenberg had just been doing a version of his Zuckerberg from The Social Network, it would have been fine. His whole twitchy routine was weird as fuck.

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        I think physically Affleck was the only actor to play Batman that actually matched the character. Like Bruce is huge and has very wide shoulders and Affleck has the perfect silhouette for it. Also he can be a good actor too, he could have been great had he been given better material imho

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      A stache so good, he probably could have walked straight into CIA headquarters and nobody would have stopped him for credentials.