Personally i’m all for it, no one I know likes it and even the most aggressive linux hater I know has switched to saying that they’ll probably try it after win 10 eol
Best advertising campain I’ve ever seen, just not for the product they are trying to advertise
I use Linux for work and windows for home. I will be swapping to Linux full time when win10 eol
lol, the Linux adoption accelerationism.
I miss when Microsoft was just evil and greedy and not stupid.
Is it stupid? I doubt MS cares about the absolutely miniscule amount of people who will care enough to complain about this. Those people would probably just turn the feature off, or use a different OS, anyway. Catering to that audience isn’t something MS cares about.
The average user won’t do a thing. MS gets to outsource the computational work of all this spying to their users and then hoover up the data at the end. Microsoft stands to gain a lot from this in the markets where it will be allowed to fly.
Imagine trying to use Wireshark on windows to debug or look at some service.
Just an avalanche of packets going to 20 different domains on idle.
No, no. You see, Recall runs locally. It’s “edge computing”. Which would imply to me that it runs on my router…? Anyway, it’s not the cloud, it’s edge and AI and surely super cyber, too (whatever that means). My point is, I could give you many more buzzwords, so don’t worry. You won’t need Wireshark ever again, just ask the AI if your network is secured. 👍
As a non-Windows-user I see that as a good thing. LLMs are not going away - but that kind of nonsense at least will make sure all PCs will eventually have cheap and reasonably fast AI acceleration. Which is required for killing off centrally hosted LLMs (plus nvidias cash grabbing)
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Just like crypto obsesion gave us cheap crypto chips in all personal computers? Get real dude, this is just a way for them to steal even more data from people. Nothing good will come from this. Quite the oposite, we will see yet another price increase in hardware because all AI dumbasses will hoard them yet again. Don’t forget these are the same morons that were pushing for cryptos and nfcs hahaha. These are people who believe in magic free money, too bad they sometimes get it because our society is built by retards. I really can’t stand people looking for a possitive in this dissaster …
The NPUs are good, provided that they can be used the same way dedicated GPUs are used: By 3rd party applications to accelerate certain intensive tasks when you demand them.
However, shoehorning AI into the OS itself definitely screams buzzwords. AI and OS’s are polar opposites: You want an OS to be fast, predictable, and reliable. AI is currently slow, extremely unpredictable, and hallucinatory (i.e. unreliable).
I mean who is surprised at this point?
That’s the problem. They keep pushing this shit until people get desensitized and see it as “normal.” We absolutely need to shout and rant about this ridiculous crap, everytime.
Don’t worry, DRM-ed content isn’t recorded, so big companies’ IP is protected.
Always keep Netflix open and playing to stay safe?
I think only the player is blocked, and would be shown in the screenshots as a black rectangle
So it’s not a new feature. Since windows 95 print screen can’t screenshot videos for technical issues. Instead of fixing the bug they’re promoting it to feature
It’s not a bug, it’s 110% intentional and not only for the windows default screenshot utility. The whole pipeline is built in such a way to prevent you from taking screenshots or capturing video of a DRM protected player.
Even in Linux, afaik, you can’t simply take screenshots or record a Netflix movie playing in the browser. Yes there are ways, but not with the default applications (you need to break the encryption)
I remember that in the windows 9x age I tried taking screenshots of the matrix avi and all I got was a black rectangle. I assumed that it was how the graphics worked as when pasted in paint it would act like a “hole” where if you moved the window it stayed in the place of the video player. Like if it’s not in the graphic buffer because it’s an accelerated directx video or something like that. Not an expert and also more than 20 years passed and my memory is wonky
Make Mario my desktop background and stay protected forever by the holy power of Nintendo’s lawyers.
Kirbo will step in with Luigi with a cross.
Can you add a banknote or EURion symbol somewhere to dissuade image-processing software?
If the data stays on a local device why is drm protection even necessary 🤔
because you’re not “allowed” (in some places you are) to copy stuff you paid for.
Because it is locally accessible and could be distributed elsewhere. I guess? I’m not sure what kind of copyrights can be broken by a screenshot in the first place.
How different is this vs the previous feature which was their version of apples Time Machine?
This isn’t file backup. This takes a screenshot every few minutes, OCRs it, and stores all that in an unencrypted SQLite file in your user folder for anyone to grab.
Basically anything on your screen is recorded and stored, theoretically forever.
What use is it if it its not backup?
It’s fed to an ai. Supposedly so you can ask it “what’s this product and where can I buy it fast” instead of using your fingers like a normal person.
Exactly. You know how people are suspicious that they were talking about something and later see ads for it? Microsoft will now capture all your inputs to build an ad profile. “It doesn’t leave your computer,” yeah your computer just makes hyper-specific requests for ads.
Data harvesting.
Unfortunatly had to upgrade to windows11 thank god for tiny11, winutil, MAS, and virtualbox.
If you don’t need winapps/battery life start looking into Linux
Ohh i only run windows in a vm. Am loving the linux propaganda this might finally be the year of the linux desktop.
Oh lol good. The only issue I have with Linux is laptops and battery life. It’s a YMMV situation as some have same or better battery life, while some it’s alot worse than windows even with tools like tlp and stuff.
JFC
How does this make Microsoft money? What’s their path to selling the result of this feature?
You need to drop big money for the new PCs that can run this crap… Plus you can bet they’ll mine your data and sell you off like a chubby prostitute from the 1800s
This, they are getting kickbacks from laptop OEMs because people will now need to buy expensive computers again. They were stagnating there for a while finding a way to charge people alot who only need a PC for basic tasks, and now they will be buying a laptop basically the same price as a entry/mid gaming laptop. Now you cannot use price to say “oh windows laptops are cheaper than macs”. That’s out the door. As I said above though, disregarding privacy, Chromebooks are what most people only need for their day to day tasks, and arm based ones last super long on a single charge.
Probably targeted ads, since they claim the data doesn’t leave the device, they get the AI to figure out what type of ads to show.
This. The answer is always ads.
FTFY: Windows
feature that screenshots everything labeledis a security “disaster”Microsoft claims it’s offline, but how sure can we be? I smell what the rock is cooking.
Doesn’t matter. If your PC is ever compromised, that feature is a one stop shop for stealing everything you have ever done on your computer.
Bye bye windows
Even if it was 100% offline. For how long? Microsoft can change that with a patch at any time. Suddenly all your personal files are being fed into GPT with no consent.
No more windows for me. I’ve been back and forth with windows 11 and Linux but been on Linux for awhile. Last windows I used full time was 7
Not even completely removing Windows from your life will help. Anyone you interact with through email or instant message or social media will have screen-scraped copies of the entire interaction. And that would be bad enough if only a single person gets hacked and has their Recall data hijacked. There will be huge databases available that people will be able to freely cross reference. They’ll still be able to build a quite extensive profile on you just through all of your interactions that get scraped from others.
Yes I’m aware. I’ve been down that path, and sadly there’s no escape no matter what tor this or VPN that you use with a privacy centric app. We can however minimize what is being data mined.
It’s using a snapdragon elite specific chip that can handle the AI offline.
While we don’t yet know if it can be a hackers wet dream, we do know that there are use cases for it
Yes I can agree there can be positive uses for AI, but I don’t really see any transparency from current AI companies to trust them.
I hate this feature but if that UI is real it’s beautiful
It’s not, it just a marketing image.
Say what you will about Microsoft and Win11 but their 3D animated trailers and marketing images look amazingThere’s a gif at the bottom of the article. Looks similar to any video scrubbing interface.
Idk but Microsoft does their modern UIs really well. just don’t open the properties menu or anything there’s nothing there I promise
If they just had a consistet UI style It’d be much better
I just installed Nobara today so I could finally rid myself of Windows hell and it’s been amazing.
I want to do the same, but I’m on the fence between Nobara and Bazzite.
Bazzite looks like it’s way more customizable and expanded. I might actually dual boot it out of curiosity.
Lol I read that as Norton at first!
I just installed Norton Anti-Virus Suite and it’s been amazing. I haven’t been able to use my computer since!
No chance the crypto-mining trojan can make any money for it’s creator, Norton uses up all available processing power doing whatever the fuck it is that it does.
Norton OS. It’s just full of trials to their software.
Oh god why lmao. NortonOS™️
Is that a linux distro?
It is, a gaming focused Fedora distro to be exact.
Nobara is a Fedora distro(essentially backed by IBM) by Glorious Eggroll (developer who made Proton GE) designed to be more gaming user oriented, as many of its preincluded configs and applications were tailored to gamers.
I am currently using Fedora mostly for gaming. I wonder what’s different to Nobara?
From their site:
Fedora with user-friendly fixes added.
It seems the fixes are mostly related to better onboarding and avoiding the terminal for basic stuff, like adding yum repos. If you’re already familiar with Linux it shouldn’t offer you much beyond the nice-to-have kernel patches and better Nvidia compatibility.
It’s also preinstalled with Steam and Lutris, and includes a pile of graphical tweaks for running games and video editing suites like daVinci Resolve, etc.
Thx. Nvidia compatibility was the only problem I had so far. But I could solve it myself. Will check Nobara maybe the next time I get issues.
Calling Fedora IBM backed feels so wrong but technically true I guess.
If you’re faced with the tradeoff between security and another priority, your answer is clear: Do security. In some cases, this will mean prioritizing security above other things we do, such as releasing new features or providing ongoing support for legacy systems. This is key to advancing both our platform quality and capability such that we can protect the digital estates of our customers and build a safer world for all.
Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft, 03 May 2024
You keep using that word… I do not think it means what you think it means.
