Dumb framing. They aren’t panicking, they’re framing the results so they can fit them to their narrative no matter what happens. Biden wins = he was on drugs, no way senile and incapable Biden could win otherwise. Biden loses = full proof he’s senile and incapable.
What’s the over under for tRump backing out?
I’ll give you 20 to 1
I’m sure both sides are “panicking”
The great thing about a debate is that you don’t even have to watch the damned things to know who won.
Your team did! Because your team is the best and always was!
Alternatively people like me need to suffer through them because the media spin is ridiculous on them. Not that it matters anyways, it’s not like they’re going to feel beholden to what they said.
I’m sure it’s gonna be mostly trash talking back and fourth.
Setting up my Trump/Biden bingo card with “Hunter Biden’s Cock” as the free space.
texas rep. Ronny Jackson is among those who have demanded that Biden take part in a drug test before and after Thursday’s debate. Jackson, who served as Trump’s White House physician and medical adviser… [said] “If President Biden needs to take performance enhancing drugs in order to participate in this week’s debate, then it is imperative that he and his physician disclose that to the American people,” Jackson said.
In that case, anything that you wanted to disclose to the American people there, Ronny? It’s always just breathless, impotent projection…
projection…
Hmm, so Trump needs before and after debate drugs? Of course amphetamines would be the classical far right choice, but then there’s the whole opioid crisis thing going on… choices, choices…
I’m okay with both participants performing a drugs test.
Probably the only time I agree on a both sides argument. Hell, while we’re at it, lets drug test the house and senate too.
The cartel will start lobbying, because of loosing their biggest outlet.
Does anybody else find it a little sad that Ronny Jackson simps for Trump when Trump can’t even remember his name when talking about him? Or did he just change his name to Ronny Johnson so that the god-king doesn’t have to be wrong?
I mean, I would find it sad if I weren’t completely out of sympathy for these Trump sycophants who let Trump talk shit about them publicly so that they can cling to power a little longer. Especially the shitheels who criticized Trump and now find themselves kissing the ring and bending the knee to get that VP nom.
Find it all sad, would be more sympathetic though if they weren’t literally fascist psychopaths that want to burn down the world so that nobody can directly focus on the fact that they are bald, broke, gay and their father never told them, “I love you”.
Ive heard IRL people say its rigged because apparently mics will be turned off of it isn’t their turn? Idk if thats true but I’m fully behind the idea personally lol.
That is true and a common rule to prevent someone from just talking over everyone else. It doesn’t mean they’ll just get cut, at least not at this level. They’ll finish their piece and then the mic is turned off while the other person is responding.
There are time limits in place too.
Screw that, turn off the oxygen if it isn’t their turn.
Just turn off the oxygen and get better candidates.
The interruptions, while “entertaining”, should not exist in a debate so consequential. I feel like high school debate clubs have more decorum than any presidential debate in the last 16 years. Mic cuts are absolutely needed.
Idk. I was in a highschool debate club a bit over a decade ago, and I was very good at the public forum event. Like, regularly in the top 32 for both the NFL and CFL national tournaments good. There were other people at the top of that ladder with me that made very effective use of the “pound the table” strategy, and how well it worked often boiled down to judge variance. People act that way in debates because it absolutely works on some viewers
I was just making a joke to highlight the bullshit presidential debates have become, but I get what you mean. Shouting IS effective.
They seriously think debates are won by volume or persistence.
If Trump is going to challenge Biden to a mental coherency test, why doesn’t Biden challenge Trump to a bicycle race or a 2k run? After all, Trump has declared himself the healthiest President in history. (But a race like that would have good possibility of causing Trump a heart attack… which would of course be an unfortunate outcome).
Doesn’t Biden have a broken foot that hasn’t healed very well and makes him shuffle around a bit?
Yes very unfortunate. Certainly nothing to wish, pray, or perform dark rituals for. Certainly not.
Trump could take all the Adderall available in the world and he would still be a fucking moron.
He’d just be an idiot faster.
On one hand I’m glad the media is reporting on this. On the other hand they seem to be signal boosting a lot of the messaging from the right
🌎👨🚀🔫👨🚀
“ChatGPT can you translate these emojis? Sure! The emojis can be translated as “Earth astronaut gun astronaut.””
That’s helpful!
(It is the “always has been” meme with an astronaut looking at the Earth from space and a second astronaut pointing a gun at them behind their back.)
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was.
Look what my hand does
Remove the water from the bottom of the ocean
Same as it ever was
dookie donald
Both of these guys are ancient. I wouldn’t care if any of them used drugs (as long as they don’t pose long-term risks for their health) because they might as well be medication. Or are we going to be so dense that the idea that two 80 years olds are likely taking some medication is going to fly over our heads? Furthermore, where do we draw the line of what a “drug-enhancing drug” is? Coffee? Most adults take it to function under inhuman schedules. Adderall? If you do have ADHD, you do also need it to function; if you don’t have it, it’s going be even less useful than coffee. Anything else that they bought at a pharmacy? I don’t care.
All in all, this looks like a talking point made up by people who want to treat politics like a sport, where we’re supposed to watch “athletes” compete with equal opportunity for performance, which is definitely not what a presidential debate should be about.
Furthermore, where do we draw the line of what a “drug-enhancing drug” is?
I want drug-enhancing drugs
The typo will stay.
This is kind of obvious and I probably don’t have to say it but…
Trump is doing this to weasel his way out of a debate he shouldn’t have agreed to. No way in hell Trump subjects himself to the same drug test. He’s betting on Biden not agreeing to it either so he can just say “well those liberals are obviously playing dirty so I’m out”
The drugs in question are necessarily irrelevant
You are definitely right that this is a manipulative move on Trump’s part to make Biden look bad and get out if this debate.
But aren’t most people in their 80’s on a bunch if drugs anyway? Like blood pressure pills, cholesterol medicine, diuretics, arthritis medication etc? I’m not trying to stereotype older folks, but every person I’ve met over 60 seems to take a lot of pills… that help them live and perform actions they couldn’t otherwise.
That’s what makes this extra stupid. Maga hats don’t think that far
They’re more likely using “wakefulness promoting agents” like modafinil and armodafinil (Provogil/Nuvigil respectively, or probably some better shit in the same class) which are actually kind of amazing and I have zero issue with them taking it.
Non-euphoric, and as far as I’m aware, not physically habit forming; it just keeps you awake and alert, I don’t know how else to describe it. Essentially none of the side effects (pleasurable or not) of traditional stimulants. After about 8-10 hours you sleep pretty ok.
I’m really not sure why these drugs haven’t become more popular over the last decade or two… Probably the whole “not habit forming” thing.
I’ve got a stash that I’ve had in a drawer for 5+ years and I’ll take one like three times a year or something as needed.
not physically habit forming; it just keeps you awake and alert…
The military would like to know your location as it keeps having problems with minor issues like sailors falling asleep while driving ships.
Jokes aside, these are incredibly habit forming in the wrong environments. Under supervision and attempting to stabilize your sleep schedule they’re great. But the abuse envelope is huge, from truckers to cops.
I’ve got a stash that I’ve had in a drawer for 5+ years and I’ll take one like three times a year or something as needed.
Yo, I just re-read your comment. Yeah, that’s… not good. Modafinil is deffo one of those ones youre supposed to titrate off of and going off of it cold turkey or only using it here and there is one of the ways to get those really dangerous side effects. Please stop this.
There is no titrating off a single dose, what do you mean? Titration would require taking the drug regularly for a period of time and then stopping.
I think you misunderstood what I said. I take one on the super rare occasion that I feel I need it, which probably averages out to like 3 times a year or less. There is nothing dangerous about that, and if you think there is then you’re misinformed.
Probably because modafinil carries some risky nasty side effects that adderall doesn’t.
Are they rare? Yes.
Are they deadly? Also yes.
Um Adderall is not less useful than coffee for non-ADHD peeps.
Edit: reading other comments, I see what you mean. For dementia/clarity, no, but just wakefulness, yes it does something.
As far as I know, Adderall for people without ADHD induces the self-perception of higher performance, yet increase in performance isn’t actually statistically noticeable, so it might be useful for someone who feels emotionally stuck (afraid of failing, tired), but not for someone who does not have the capacity to do well, much like caffeine only gives you the self-perception that you’re less tired than you actually are.
I mean, fighter pilots are given them to stay sharp on long missions. You think that’s because they’re emotionally stuck?
Every fighter pilot I’ve ever dated was emotionally stuck. Or “stalled” as so many of them insisted on calling it.
That’s the military in general. It’s a frat house we never actually grow out of.
i dunno dude, one time I got a gram of basement crank and was excited to try it, so I horked a rail right before band practice. our lead singer/guitarist was like “yo your drumming is so tight today, youre on fire!” and I was like “speed!”
basement crank and was excited to try it, so I horked a rail
I love your words.
Use of stimulants like amphetamine or methamphetamine, which are both drugs prescribed for ADHD comes with many side effects. When abused they deteriorate the brain and body quite strongly and they have many psychological problems associated with them like delusions, developing a lack of empathy, disorientation…
80 years old should definitely not do speed, even if it is doctor prescribed.
They’re likely not using amphetamines, but rather (ar)modafinil or something else in that class. Which have very few side effects.
I hope Biden points out the diapers and the smell.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: There are better things to attack Trump for than how he looks, what physical conditions he has or how he smells.
At face value, those sorts of things have little effect on the ability to run a country well.
Even his hair is a better target because how he wears it would appear to show vanity, a quality that might actually interfere with stable management. That’s still a relatively big stretch without other evidence (of which there would appear to be plenty) though.
Attack his ideas, his intents, his politics. He makes this easy enough, right? Start there.
“LOL u smel” is something you expect in the playground. Something Trump himself might use, perhaps.
We have to be better than that.
His base doesn’t care that he’s a criminal and a rapist. They might care that he smells like poop
His base would happily shit their pants if they thought a Liberal would have to smell it.
At face value, those sorts of things have little effect on the ability to run a country well.
Fuck, man, I’m not saying that the smell is necessarily a good strategic choice for winning over voters, but if it is, Biden absolutely should hammer on it. Fuck the “We go high” shite.
I feel this. It is satisfying, but it’s not really productive.
But we’re not.
Ate out with the wife tonight, and got an unexpected political back-to-back: the restaurant had CNN playing on one end of my field of view, and Fox on the other.
CNN reported on all kinds of shit. Every time I looked up, different topic. They went back to the upcoming debate and the Gaza genocide a couple times, but otherwise just an even spread of unfolding events.
Fox spent most of the time talking about how left wing media will spin the debate to make Trump look like an extremist; and then a few small snips about how illegal immigrants are terrorizing our society and getting our youth hooked on fentanyl. They even managed to bitch about Hillary lol, although I missed the context… assuming they’re still rambling about emails.
People who watch Fox must be terrified and angry like all the time lol.
PHRASING!
I completely missed the “with” in your first sentence and, wow, I had some thoughts and feelings which I am glad I didn’t share without re-reading what you wrote first.
Yeah, I was wondering which restaurants this guy was able to eat his wife out at. Every time I’ve tried I get the old, “Sir, this is White Castle, even we have standards.”
Yeah, at White Castle you have to at least use one of those tiny napkins to wipe up after.
I did the same and this comment made me look again. Was bout ready to say does this guy have a news kink? Lmfao
People who watch Fox must be terrified and angry like all the time lol.
That’s the point.
Cortisol addiction is a real thing
Why would they panic? They’ll just play their usual pigeon chess: knocking the pieces over, crapping on the board, and flying off to announce that they have won.
They saw him during the State of the Union and it didn’t match the clips and memes from their echo chamber that they live in.
They tried to blame drugs (pigeon chess) and no normal person has bought it. They don’t have a plan B for when people actually hear him talk.
OO u& the
If they do end up testing for drugs, the results will be as real as their other results have been
