• suction@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    How often are we going to act surprised that it’s a cult, and he is their Fuhrer? This is getting ridiculous, the time for analysis of their side is over. We should long be in the phase of action.

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      26 days ago

      He’s been a criminal for all of his adult life. He’s just rich and white and flew under the radar enough. If he had just fucked off into retirement on some island rather than becoming president (and committing more crimes) you’d probably never hear about him anymore and he could have lived in peace.

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      26 days ago

      That’s one thing that drives me fucking crazy, voters let that single letter define if they support policy or hate it. If trump had done and said everything he’s done over the last several years but had a (D) they would hate him. And vice versa.

      • Anamnesis@lemmy.world
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        26 days ago

        It’s not a bipartisan issue. Democrats do not have the same slavish adoration for their leaders that Republicans do.

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            26 days ago

            Al Franken quit. Bob Menendez is facing trial. Rod Blagojevich was convicted. Wiener and Cuomo were shamed from office

            Jim Jordan is still there. Matt Gaetz is still there. It took comic-book levels of evil to turf Santos.

            And then we have Trump.

            So no, being critical of your own team isn’t bipartisan. It may have been at one time, but that’s at least thirty years ago.

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            26 days ago

            You’re a god damned idiot if you don’t think there would be at least as much genocide under Trump.

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        25 days ago

        Another voice calling you out on this bullshit.

        Team Blue has kicked and will kick members out who give the party a bad name. Hell, they’ll kick 'em out before the conviction. That doesn’t happen with Republicans, with only Santos (gee, Hispanic name, I wonder why) facing the music for his bullshit in all of the GQP.

        Fuck this Both Sides bullshit. It’s not true, and we shouldn’t stand for it.

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          They kick Henry Cuellar, pro life under federal investigation. They didn’t kick Menendez currently under indictment. They didn’t kick pro life Pelosi.

    • Cosmo@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      Trying to find it again, but I had seen a set of polls earlier where they had asked some republicans “Would you be ok with a convicted felon as president?” and other republicans “would you be ok with Trump as president if he were a convicted felon?”, and the ones asked the Trump version had said yes at a much higher rate than the generic question.

  • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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    26 days ago

    Trump can’t win with only 58 percent of the Republican vote. He needs somewhere in area of at least 80 - 90 percent. I see this survey result as good news.

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        26 days ago

        This isn’t a poll of all voters, it’s a poll of Republican voters. Interpret it as you wish, but you have no evidence that it doesn’t mean shit.

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              I paid attention to the polls in 2016 and thought Trump didn’t stand a chance, so I voted 3rd party like I always do. I was wrong. I no longer pay attention to polls.

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                Well good for you, but this poll isn’t about the general. It is no different than opinion surveys taken every day. It has nothing to do with the electoral college.

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                I paid attention to polls, as well. They swung wildly around as the news cycle shifted between bad news for Trump and bad news for Hillary. Then, Comey’s letter drops at the perfect time (deliberate or not) to bring Hillary’s numbers just low enough to give Trump an edge in key states. That happened too late for any new polls to absorb the info before the election.

                When Fivethirtyeight.com was giving around 75% chance for a Hillary victory, that doesn’t mean her victory was assured. It means Trump needed to flip two coins and have them both come up heads.

                Polls aren’t useless. They are a statistical tool. People applied them badly.

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                  Comey’s stunt was deliberate AF. And it was an unforgivable crime that likely leads to the US becoming a dictatorship. If I were in Comey’s presence, I’d spit in his face for what he did.

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          His message here is that Republicans can SAY whatever they want to to pollsters, and there’s a movement out on Team Pepe to do just that.

          “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality, judiciously, as you will, we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

          Never forget that.

    • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      Then why was Michael Cohen convicted? Was that a political persecution too, or are you just crying foul because somebody finally held your knuckle-dragging god king to account for once in his miserably pathetic fucking existence?

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      26 days ago

      9 jurors agreed on by both prosecution and defense decided unanimously that the crimes occurred and he was guilty of them. How is that political?

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      26 days ago

      This reminds me of the flat earthers or the moon landing conspiracy theorists. At some point, the number of people colluding becomes so great, it must be a miracle.

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      26 days ago

      Oh look, the newest entrant for my right-wing nut tag!

      Btw, you missed the exit for Twitter/Truth Social, it’s back there

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      26 days ago

      If it were political, then Michael Cohen wouldn’t have been prosecuted and imprisoned for the same crime, in which Donald Trump was “Individual 1”.

      That was 2018, who was President in 2018? 🤔

    • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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      26 days ago

      "Joe Biden or anyone from his Justice Department has absolutely zero to do with the Manhattan District Attorney office, they have no jurisdiction over him, they have no contact with him, they have no control certainly over him. So to say that Joe Biden brought this case is one of the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard. We know that’s not the case and even Trump’s lawyers know that’s not the case.”

      — Former Trump lawyer Joe Tacopina, quoted by NBC News. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/former-trump-lawyer-says-ridiculous-biden-involved-hush-money-rcna155272

      You are repeating a story designed for the rubes.

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        You are repeating a story designed for the rubes.

        Trying to shame conservatives like this doesn’t work. They’re actively proud of being gullible, stupid, victims to their celebrities. It’s their entire identity. They see this and think “hell yeah, you don’t want me repeating the story?? I better do it harder anyway!” - it doesn’t matter that you are actually saying “btw this makes you look very dumb and gullible”, all they heard was “i don’t like this”, and since you’re The Enemy™, they love what you don’t and hate what you do, and they double down on whatever it was, to Win Harder™.

        This is why they’ll often seem to take self-defeating or self-contradictory positions, and if you point that out, they take it as winning against you twice (instead of proving themselves wrong) and go straight to calling you a loser and patting themselves on the back.

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          That’s why you hit them where it hurts. Into their little fragile egos, don’t even take them serious. Laugh at their face, show them they’re just clowns, dumber than monkeys

          That’s how I “argue” with people that don’t act in good faith anyway. It works because “winning” is sooo important to them but those idiots aren’t even close to would be competition anyway

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          It’s like when that one uncle does something stupidly embarrassing in public, but you’re less embarrassed at what he’s doing/saying and more at how absolutely stupid it’s making HIM look and by extension you for being with him in this public setting. Then he doubles down and decides to keep doing it over and over because he’s “just messing with you” and by the end everyone in the room, thinks he’s a moron, and you’ve lost all respect for him.

          That’s MAGA idiots.

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        We’ll see if they turn over the communications between the Whitehouse and the DA’s, which I doubt they will do. And you’d have to be pretty naive to think that the number 3 guy in the justice department just decided right before the Trump trial to demote himself to work for the local DA in New York that just happened to be the same office that persecuted Trump. Why would anyone ever do something like that?

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    26 days ago

    This surely will end well.

    This surely won’t like, embolden anyone, to do anything, or anything crazy like that.

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      Still pisses me off that Ford didn’t pardon Nixon for a crime, he pardoned him for a crime he might have done. A then reasonable SCOTUS would probably overturned it. BTW, charges were being drawn up by a young promising attorney on the Watergate Committee, Hillary Clinton.