Maybe killing people is the wrong solution.
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I will if I ever meet one.
We’re trying, but they continue to bomb Palestine.
Hey now, they’re only bombing the Gaza part of Palestine. In the West Bank they’re just shooting the people and stealing land slower. And in the rest of Palestine they haven’t needed to do much of either after they terrorized the locals into fleeing back in 1948.
There’s no doubt that Israelis are killing Palestinian people in much larger numbers than Palestinians are killing Israelis. Many people have many views on who is responsible for what, and there are a lot of difficult and complicated discussions that one might have, but for you to forget about all of the Palestinians who lost their lives is just disgraceful.
And vice versa. It’s known as the most complicated political quagmire of centuries. If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong.
Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to want the war to stop. Once you start going farther than that…
Don’t allow people to push you to an extreme because you want to view your argument as a team sport.
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Yeah, fuck those 4 year old terrorists. They didn’t deserve heads anyways. Those terrorists in graveyards deserved to be dug up. Controlled demolition of universities is necessary because most of the bricks are terrorists. If a handful of terrorists hide in a hospital, the only logical thing to do is bomb the fuck out of the hospital.
Nothing about how the IDF is behaving looks like targeted attacks on Hamas. Military experts everywhere have been telling Israel since the beginning that their tactics would fail and result in mass civilian casualties and a strengthened Hamas. Israel does it anyways because killing civilians is the objective. Destroying homes, hospitals, schools, universities, religious institutions, and even graveyards is the objective. Everything that ties the Palestinian people to their land is being destroyed in a bald faced effort to drive them away. That is genocide, and that is terrorism.
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Look at any news source. Literally any of them. Israel has repeatedly attached Gaza’s healthcare infrastructure.
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Why? I don’t see sources for all your bullshit.
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This is ultimately the Jedi philosophy. Only use lethal force to defend oneself or others.
If the Oct 7 and ensuring events happened during, say that High Republic, the Jedi would be despatched to buffer the warzone. Then meditate between both sides like access to places of worship and settlement zoning, arrest anyone on both sides committing crimes against the Republic (kidnappers and war criminals) which would in turn please citizens on both sides. Then probably install a small Jedi outpost/temple to act as local peacekeepers. All to prevent more death, which is ultimately one of the main tenants of the Jedi Order.
One could argue Luke’s actions are the result of defense of others needed so direly after years of slaughter and against an indiscriminate killing machine by the Empire that the loss of life, albeit great, was justified.
The whole point of the prequels is that the Jedi were kinda shit and supported the status quo, even as Palpatine took over the Republic and formed it into a highly militarized empire. So yeah the Jedi probably would accomplish little of note for decades while the Palestinian situation got worse and worse.
A just government would have retaliated against Zionists after the Nakba, permanently destroying their ability to wage war and empowering the Palestinian government to prevent a repeat of the tragedy. A just and competent government never would have let zionist terrorists do what they did in the first place, and would have presided over a peaceful transition from colonial to local rule, resulting in a multireligious and multiethnic Palestine.
On one hand I totally agree, but on the other I would like to see billionaires on the guillotine.
Fuck that post. It puts even more gasoline into the fire. Break out of the circle of hatred. Stop the war!
Oh my, Why we didn’t that of that?
This comment is the essence of liberalism
Vibes and aesthetics garbage instead of any real analysis. Sounding smart is more important than being one.
“A liberal is someone who opposes every war except the current war and supports all civil rights movements except the one that’s going on right now.”
The problem is it can be just as easily interpreted either way. It should seem to most of us to say, ‘destroying homes creates more martyrs,’ but I’m sure half the people will interpret it as, ‘unprovoked attack deserves indiscriminate retaliation.’ In that, it does a surprisingly good job of encapsulating how complicated the whole thing is…
That was kind of my issue. Reading this doesn’t make it clear who’s PoV we have here.
I dont see how it is complicated. There were people living on a land. Another people came to steal it and started the violence. Since then it committed far more violence while being armed and supported by another imperial entity that wants those people to keep destabilizing their region to prevent the development of a stable regional power that could leverage its resources and strategic position appropriately.
it’s as if we are in an alternate timeline where Luke immediately went to emperor Palpatine and said your cock is the best I’ve ever seen! let me suck it, and let’s do a commercial together about how the empire will save the galaxy, and that you should donate to his reelection.
So, Hamill’s social media?
Liberals will cheer on the rebal alliance then go home and vote for the empire.
There wasn’t any voting in the Empire after Palpatine dissolved the Senate.
Sort of like how there was no voting in Gaza after Hamas permanently suspended elections.
Also there were homes in Israel that looked a lot like Luke’s house after Hamas attacked and mercilessly massacred everyone they could find on October 7.
It’d be better if they do exactly what Palpatine and the Empire want by making choices that help Sith Lords take more seats in the government.
every act of violence taken by an oppressed people against their oppressor to resist their own eradication is morally justified.
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“Eviscerated into cinders.” Whut 🤦♂️
I had the same thought. This whole post reeks of the appeal to authority fallacy, simply because the poster (purports to be) a rabbit.
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No because, Luke blew up a war ship literally trying to kill him.
The Rabbi’s folk are committing genocide on women and children…
I think this Rabbi is on the palestinian side
yes, he clearly is for “free Palestine” ☞ https://x.com/Mivasair
Yes, he is.
You forgot the before part, where he spent decades trying to genocide the empire and take over their bases because they were special places.
You forgot the before part, where he spent decades trying to genocide the empire and take over their bases because they were special places.
You mean the decades where the empire tried to Genocide the native population and colonized their land?
Hamas wasn’t created in a vacuum is what I’m saying.
I think you switched up the empire and the natives
Yeah, cause it’s fiction idiot. You know, the thing where we can have clear cut situations that are entirely black and white. Where one side is entirely evil and the entire one pure good. Reality fucking sucks
That’s the fun part about Palestine. Reality rarely gets as black and white as it is there.
And still our country is cheering for black.
Hamas launches rockets from schools and hospitals, kills other Muslims who cooperate with Israel
Has in its founding charter the death of all Jews
Rarely gets as black and white as it is there
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When you lie about everything it becomes gray indeed. Good job.
Which claim was a lie? I’d be happy to provide sources
Sure provide sources Hamas fired rockets from schools during the current Genocide.
Sure. Here’s a Jpost article. The language is right-leaning and incendiary, but the pictures are real.
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-769701
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-jerusalem-post/
Here’s another source: https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/defense/1671035706-israeli-army-reveals-hamas-rocket-launching-sites-near-3-schools-in-gaza
Here’s a UNRWA source:
To be honest, it’s a bit embarrassing that you’re invested at all in this horrible conflict without even realizing who Hamas is, or what they stand for. Hamas is famous for using civilians as human shields, and it is no secret that they continue to do so.
Here’s a link from Yale University that has Hamas’ founding charter:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious
The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
We should not forget to remind every Moslem that when the Jews conquered the Holy City in 1967, they stood on the threshold of the Aqsa Mosque and proclaimed that “Mohammed is dead, and his descendants are all women.”
Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. “May the cowards never sleep.”
Keep in mind, I’m not saying that innocent people being bombed by Israel is okay, but don’t pretend that Hamas are freedom fighters. They’d love nothing more than to enact a second Holocaust, and they’re religious fanatics in every sense of the word.
Your UNRWA report says “found in vacant school” not fired so no.
What does the new Hamas charter say? You can’t read the old one so they spelled it out for you. Go search chapter 16.
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This post could support both sides
Just like in the movies, if you only tell the story from one side. You could ignore the October attack and sympathize with Palestine
That is like sympathizing with the Nazis and the Jews in WW2 at the same time.
Many people sympathized with the Nazis in WW2. Everything was so much more gray black then. But then we found out that "wait Genocide is bad this is actually pretty black and white.’ And so it is with Palestine which is currently under attack by the modern day Nazis.
While they chant from river to sea. That has been their slogan way before October 7th. They always been a terroristic people. That’s why they allow and voted in a terrorist organization to govern them way before October 7th.
Go back to reddit worldnews dude
Okay since you appear to already sympathize with Palestine and can’t seem to understand my post because of it
You could ignore the civilian attacks by the IDF and sympathize with Israel
Yes they have a saying for that.
wir haben es nicht gewußt
Also, it was a long, long time ago.
Man this post is really some kind of crazy Rorschach test
right? my first thought was pro-palestine, then i remembered my local closet trumper is obsessed with Star Wars and views himself as part of the Rebellion/Resistance and the other interpretation became clear. did we learn nothing from the obama-era liberal harry potter fetish?
I’ve always been more worried of the Empire did nothing wrong facet of the Fandom, but I guess there’s people who think they’re rebellion too. Despite the fact that the rebellion is the one with multiple races…
Still, there is an odd commonality of right wing propaganda types using fictional movies, shows, and books as if they are reality.
yeah look what happened with the Matrix. that’s a god damn real head scratcher. series of movies made by two transgender sisters as an homage to Anime and Kung Fu movies was somehow embraced and weaponized by the right, incels, and conspiracy nuts.
the funniest thing to me is that “the red pill” is supposed to represent estrogen
Yeah, I want to interpret it as someone posting not only in support of Palestine, but in warning to Israel that their actions are that of the star wars Empire, and that the rebels did eventually succeed in a massive counterattack
Yeah but in this story the “rebels” want to kill as many Jews as they can, as we saw on October 7.
In this story if there is a successful counter attack, it will be many many more civilians dead.
The rebels aren’t always the good guys, you know. I mean do you support the Rebels in the US Civil War? Sometimes the smaller power is just a group of assholes that want horrible things.
Two neighbors were fighting over a financial dispute. They couldn’t reach an agreement, so they took their case to the local rabbi. The rabbi heard the first litigant’s case, nodded his head and said, “You’re right.”
The second litigant then stated his case. The rabbi heard him out, nodded again and said, “You’re also right.”
The rabbi’s attendant, who had been standing by this whole time, was justifiably confused. “But, rebbe,” he asked, “how can they both be right?”
The rav thought about this for a moment before responding, “You’re right, too!”
I’m just taking it as someone who loves reminiscing about episode IV
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Yeah and the Brits did nothing to provoke the Irish into a quarter century bombing campaign.
Force doesn’t work for ending terrorism, only getting round the table will.
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I’m beginning to agree that force is the only way to stop Israeli terrorism. The notion that Israel hasn’t “done anything” to the Palestinians to bring on October 7 is ridiculous.
If you think the northern Irish terrorism wasn’t religious I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Yes it came to an end when a ceasefire es agreed, exactly as I said. By getting around a table.
brits actually did
You say that like Israel didn’t.
As someone else pointed out, the kind of genocidal force that Israel is applying may actually work, in the same way it worked for the USA with their “Indian Question”. Though that ultimately was a prolonged military and economic attack from multiple fronts.
The question is are we still in a world that’ll sit by one nation systematically eradicates an entire people?
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China is around doing this, Russia does the terrorists you support want to.
True. The only difference I guess is west isn’t on such friendly terms with those countries. Whereas we’re actively aiding and a betting Israel’s genocide.
don’t randomly target civilians…
This is just a lie.
living peacefully together with the other people in Israel.
There’s also Israel occupying Palestinian land and actively turning a blind eye to their “settlers” committing violence and murdering Palestinians.
At political terrorism, wich is exactly what i said.
It was religious terrorism.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67424064
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/07/middleeast/un-israel-global-list-children-intl-latam/index.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68006126
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976
Doesn’t make it right to target a festival with absolutely peaceful people
I agree. However, Israel’s response has been to use it as an excuse to carry out some good old fashioned ethnic cleansing.
They’ve killed or injured over 100,000 people. They’ve destroyed or damaged almost all of the schools. They’ve cut off water and aid. They’ve destroyed or damaged nearly half the hospitals.
If you’re willing to kill an entire people (that is, genocide) then violence works. There are no native American raids into white settlements in the USA anymore.
Israel has the poor taste to want to use the same tactics that European empires used in the 16th to 20th centuries, but in the 20th and 21st centuries.
Ok, yeah that’s a good point.
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Hamas was an elected government, in 2006. Elections haven’t been held since. I hope your mention of “elected government” was to say “an elected government shouldn’t behave like this” instead of how it struck me, which was “the electors of that government are more or less responsible for the government’s behavior today”.
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Ummm, Hitler was voted into power
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33% wins elections and is quite excusable when there’s more than two parties.
He was elected. What you consider “excusable” is irrelevant.
So now I have to somehow teach or show you that 33% can be majority?
“The Nazi Party lost 35 seats in the November 1932 election, but remained the Reichstag’s largest party, with 196 seats (33.1%). The Social Democrats (SPD) won 121 seats (20.4%) and the Communists (KPD) won 100 (16.9%).”
Sit down and shut up troll.
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Stop drinking the red koolaid troll.
JFC not everyone uses FPP
Assassination attempts on Hitler: 42 Assassination attempts on Hamas officials: 0
Totally the same thing 🤔
Hamas was financed by the government of Israel in an attempt to weaken the Palestinian Authority led by Fatah. So Israel can go fuck itself.
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Do maybe just the smallest amout of research or look on Google for 20 whole seconds and you will see how wrong you are.
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And that does nothing to disprove the fact that the Israeli government funded hamas. Pull your head out of Benjamin Netanyahu’s asshole and actually look into it. The info is all over the place. All you have to do is actually open your eyes and look at it. Going there has absolutely nothing to do with who funded who, but be careful and don’t break your arm while patting yourself on the back, bud.
I mean, you’re right. Israel didn’t fund Hamas. They assisted in the delivery of funding from Qatar.
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I mean we’re talking about political bullshit so I’m not going to get into worrying about what it was ostensibly for.
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Yeah, but that one dude is the UN foreign policy chief, and he is far from the only one. Nobody is claiming Hamas isn’t supported by Iran and Russia.
Nice try.
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Palestine will be free. Run along.
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And free from genocide loving Israel.
You might want to look into that “election”.
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Can’t believe we’re living in a timeline where some people unironically support or even related to Hamas.
You guys know you’re allowed to disagree with both IDF and Hamas, right?
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No other army wouldn’t have just levelled a nations cities because there are terrorists in them?
The IDF sets up humanitarian corridors as a PR move, then spoils it by bombing them. Humanitarian corridors are not exclusive to the IDF, as with every other example you started with “no other army”. You also are completely failing to distinguish between Hamas and Palestinians.
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There’s also an Orville episode called “Krill”, same idea.
And that we just casually missed the part where he went to the outpost, and killed all the non combatants.
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Wait, are we saying he’s the good guy, the Hamas “freedom fighter” or the Israeli protecting their lands? Who is the good guy… and that’s are fucking scary thought that I don’t know.
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That was his father…
