There are pros and cons. Is use both, because Lemmy on its own just isn’t big enough to replace Reddit. Lemmy has a decent variety of active communities for very broad/mainstream topics, plus technology and left wing politics, reflecting the shared interests of most Lemmy users. But then for any topic that’s more niche and doesn’t have a disproportionally large overlap with the interests of Lemmy users, it kinda falls appart. A lot of the more niche subredddits I participate in have no Lemmy equivalent.
I’m also hesitant to call Lemmy’s moderation better. One thing I’ve noticed with Lemmy mods is that they tend to be far too lenient with off-topic posts. Right now the top post for me on “All” is this post from !science_memes@mander.xyz. You might notice that it isn’t a meme in any way shape or form. You might also notice that it was literally posted by a mod from that community. This kind of thing happens a lot, communities on Lemmy are very prone to getting derailed away from their nominal topic.
Tell your friends about the Boost app. It makes things so much easier.
I’m using Arctic and really like it! Apollo vibes.
Boost has ads. Just FYI, I use it and like it a lot but some can’t stand ads
Voyager has big Apollo vibes which I am appreciating
Better than sync?
they ban me wherever i go, so fuck em both.
It may be time to admit that the problem is you, not mods.
while I’m not disagreeing with you, I do think there’s a big problem with trigger happy mods not being tolerant of opinions they don’t like.
Depends on the opinions, some should be bannable.
Yes, you can’t tolerate intolerance.
no. the problem is this massive pile of limp-wristed softies who need mods to protect them from the harsh reality of our modern predicament.
it is very much possible to be the only sane person in the crowd.
looking at your post history I completely understand why… I would ban you too if my rules included being nice
Lemmy.World is undergoing is bit of a Zionist admin/mods problem.
They seem to admire the reddit r/worldnews model.
This is the good part of the fediverse too. Search for another instance that is more friendly towards the plight of Palestinians.
They’ve already said they are deliberately on the offensive against Zionists and choose .world because it’s the biggest cesspool of them on Lemmy.
I don’t understand. If a mod from memes.world bans me from a meme community, I can still comment on memes.world from another instance? Or are you saying just go to another community on another instance that has the same kind of content? Because if it’s the latter then Lemmy’s userbase number problem comes into play. Even popular subjects only have like one or two big communities.
I got banned from world news because I simply responded to about obviously bullshit comment with ‘nope’. I was fatigued and short on time, but ultimately that was all their false claims deserved.
Add transphobia to the list, saying “questioning another users stated gender identity as a form of internet clout chasing is transphobic” gets your comment removed.
Internet moderation needs to be performed dispassionately. It’s administration, not leadership. But still, it appeals to power-tripping, self important assholes who have no interest in curating a functional community but instead ensuring everyone thinks and acts exactly like they do. The larger lemmy gets, the more of these awful moderators make up the moderation team. There is no mechanism in place to prevent this. I don’t even know how such sa mechanism would work, but as soon as one is figured out, the Internet will be a better place.
I think you may be preaching to the choir on this one. 😅
This is a precise depiction of both Lemmy and Reddit, surprisingly.
It could in fact depict any forum, IRC, or organized online community.
Are you joking? Lemmy is basically unmoderated, and the little moderation we have is trash.
Thats the neat part about lemmy, every instance can do their own thing.
If you’re not happy with the moderation you currently have, you can always check out other instances
Moderation is community level though.
If you bubble everything up to instance admins they basically melt from the effort.
Yes and no
If one of our users report something on lemmy.world for example we can remove it for all our users.
So yes, the post still exists but from the perspective of our instance it’s removed.
I can’t speak for other instances, but we don’t melt from the effort.
We don’t either
Several people have already raised concerns with the fact that they got banned from several unrelated .ml communities by the same mod for breaking the rules in one community. There are several topics with broad appeal that have their largest community on .ml. Switching instances is basically the same as making another account because you’re still subject to the .ml moderation.
Then the people should switch over the communities to another instance then
The people don’t really do that. A move needs to start from the mods, whether it’s because they want to move or because they did something to piss everybody off.
You’re on one of the best-moderated instances unless you hate trans people.
I’m aware. That’s why I chose this instance. And yet.
I don’t know why people keep attributing privacy to Lemmy when ActivityPub is anything but.
Privacy in the sense that no one is selling your information for profit
No, it’s just open free for the taking by anyone who decides to spin up their own instance, or to anyone who decides to scrape from an instance frederated with yours without robots.txt set against web scrapers. Hosters could even intentionally break federation to prevent deletions from syncing.
I love lemmy, but privacy is not one of its features.
Any script kiddie can scrape the entirety of Lemmy, with the exception of direct/private messages. robots.txt is merely a request, with no enforcement capability.
In terms of privacy reddit has it better(still bad but better than Lemmy) because your content is locked behind a paywall only few companies can access. On the other hand, any one can train their AI on Lemmy posts and access all history of all users freely. The difference is that on lemmy only the companies that collect your data profit, while on reddit also the owners of the platform (reddit itself) profit.
The amount of magical thinking around federated protocols both on Lemmy and Mastodon is astounding. Sure, design decisions make a difference, but federations gonna federate.
And generally that’s fine. If you’re posting stuff publicly, expect it to be public.
Lemmy gives away for free what Reddit is desperately trying to put up walls on so they can sell it, but I wouldn’t call it “private” because it’s monetized.
Lemmy is the opposite of privacy, and that just makes sense if you 🤔.
I desperately want all my posts on all forum like sites to be easily indexable by search engines. That Reddit blocked other search engines besides Google from indexing is crazy.
Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from? Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view? Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?
I got off lemmy.world because they block VPN connections. Not happening, under any circumstances. I don’t trust anyone that much.
Meanwhile I know lemmy instance that blocks most clearnet connections and can be accessed from tor and i2p
Trust them with what though? What are you posting?
Did you just do the “if you don’t have anything to hide, what’s the big deal” move?
I want privacy. That’s all.
I’m just saying that you’re literally making posts and comments specifically to be heard. What’s getting obscured here?
Well, my ISP doesn’t need to know anything about my posts. And the fediverse doesn’t need to know who I am beyond “growingentropy,” so…
Ah yeah that makes sense.
Is your IP passed on to other instances along with your post/comment?
No. ActivityPub does not share your IP with other instances.
Nope, that info stays on the home instance.
Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from?
That depends on the implementation.
Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view?
That depends on the implementation.
Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?
That—believe it or not—depends on the implementation.
We already have an implementation. You me and OP are all on Lemmy. So can you answer these in the context of Lemmy again?
I actually can’t answer them, because I only admin this instance, I don’t run it.
While I’m sure this is not the case, it’s entirely possible that the people who do run this instance are running a fork of it that does all of those things. It couldn’t log your IP address or block your VPN, but it could mine, and your instance could yours. And I haven’t read the Lemmy source code, so I don’t know what even an unmodified Lemmy logs.
But you can read the source code and get an understanding of whether it is collecting private information or not. You can theoretically also fork the code and make your own version of Lemmy where you’re ripped out the parts that collect private information. Can you do any of those things with Reddit? Absolutely not. You have no idea what exactly Reddit collects and even if you did you have no control over that collection.
What you’re doing is questioning the privacy aspect without putting in the effort to check if your questioning is valid. Nobody is preventing you from reading the source code. And if you don’t trust anyone else running the instance you can fork Lemmy, make whatever privacy changes you need and host your own instance. That goes beyond the capabilities of the average user but that’s the catch with privacy, if you can’t trust others then you have to learn more to get by without others.
Many Lemmy instances block VPN posting. You can view, but not vote or post. I have a secondary private VPN I use sometimes for that. But honestly the whole thing just sucks.
ActivityPub does not share your IP with other instances, but of course, like all websites, your home instance can see your IP.
That was what I was going to say.
That said, if someone detects some sort of data-mining plagiarism bot sucking down everything on an instance, it can be defederated very quickly.
New instances basically suck down everything as the most normal use case. That’s what activitypub is for.
See, the app won’t track your clicks, views, interests. Only public thing is the thinh you post. Which is great for public communities. Theese are meant to be public. But things facebook or reddit or google does is enough to call lemmy private
What do you mean by “privacy” on the lemmy side? And aren’t the mods mostly the same mods that were active onnreddit before?
Hi, I’m Serinus of the Lemmy.World Community Team checking in.
And aren’t the mods mostly the same mods that were active onnreddit before?
No. Most of the mods from Reddit stayed on Reddit to desperately cling to “power”.
Also, if you want to help with this, talk to me about modding a community or two.
in a collaborative website such as a wiki, 90% of the participants of a community only consume content, 9% of the participants change or update content, and 1% of the participants add content.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule
It generally takes about five minutes a month to mod a medium (Lemmy) sized community. I have to beg people to volunteer, and they often turn me down.
Our top mods seem to be great people, but I’m still trying to informally limit how many communities they have in favor of having more diversity and fresh blood. But it’s difficult when they’re willing to actively help out, and I have to go beg otherwise active people who turn me down.
Please, if you don’t like super mods and you want to actually help, go take a look at some of your favorite communities right now. See if the mods have posted in the last couple months. If they haven’t, talk to me about modding that community. Mention this post.
The one I can search posts from about a very specific issue or question I have with google
You can’t unseen the huge one problem that Lemmy has: lack of contents/people
lemmy now has more content daily than reddit in 2011, we’ll grow.
We’ve already grown faster than reddit
And searching for the said content
Catch 22. Just gotta start posting content
I’m doing my part!
There is substantially less content , but there is content. I don’t get everything I am looking for, but enough to keep me happy
I find enough content here. Have you blocked every instance?
Good for you. At least it’s not enough for me, and for everyone who’s still using Reddit
Yeah, in comparison, that’s for sure. But if they don’t join, they fulfill their own prophecy.
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And the community that is here is, amazingly, somehow even worse than Reddit, on average, when it comes to being a hive mind that is wildly intolerant of any disagreement.
I personally disagree, mainly because the interactions have much more depth than the same 30 unfunny comments that people make on reddit ex: this. Don’t get me wrong it happens here as well, just way less. I also see people back claims up with evidence here way more, it’s not always valid evidence but at least an attempt is made more.
The thing I like the best is the lack of self righteousness (ironic I’m making this comment on this post haha) that reddit has, that was my personal biggest complaint there. Like on reddit if there is an animal in a video in any way shape or form you can almost always find someone screeching about animal abuse, even when it is obviously not.
I of course have bias in favor of Lemmy and this is highly dependent on the community. I will admit Lemmy is super left leaning, which I like, but definitely supports your hive mind argument. Even though I lean left I think it would be healthier for Lemmy to have more of a presence from the right. Unfortunately with how the political landscape is today I think it won’t be very achievable but hopefully when we hit the post Trump era divisiveness will ease making coexistence here more achievable.
My problem here is it being mostly left wing people, I am from the left, but I also want people from the other sides to be here as well, or else the whole thing will get one sided.
I don’t care about that so much as the hyper specificity of not only “you have to be on the political left here” but “being to the left isn’t enough, you need to be this far left, and hold these specific views on politics, technology, etc.”.
What does this means?
There probably are servers that try to be more tolerant or other opinions, but I think social media could be improved by something like in this video. I put a timestamp but TL;DW not just upvote+downvote, yes or no, but more diverse reactions like “partially agree”, “offtopic”, “you have convinced me”, “informative”, “misses the point”, etc.
So not just up and down, but left, right, diagonal and every which way to have a broader spectrum of human reactions instead of a binary one.
Additionally, add a more structured conversation flow depending on the community. A community for questions looks more like quora, a science community could maybe want options to add sources and have them aggregated in a thread, and so on.
Why would you actively want evil?
There’s evil in the left, trust me.
yes but right is all evil
This place is basically all autistic trans tankies. I’ve had to block so many anime communities just to make it feel anything close to mainstream
That’s a little risky to say on this instance lmao
And boom. It’s gone!
I was just re-wiping my Reddit comments with an updated text yesterday and apparently, the word “enshittification” is banned on r/hellsomememes. Seriously?
I miss the content though, and I have too much of a life to create a fediverse community and fill it with content even if it’s stolen. Can somebody break Reddit’s ToS and set up a reposting bot?
Reposting bots aren’t great. It just means a bunch of articles with no comments that make Lemmy look more dead than it actually is.
These aren’t articles, they’re just memes. The discussion below is mostly just “aww” and “I’d like a demon friend too” so it’s not too important. Of course, the reposting should not be overdone: perhaps limit the bot to a single top post every day.
r/hellsomememes
Would like to see that community on Lemmy
Can you, or anyone, explain to me how tf to do the text overwriting thing? Like, is it even doable for someone who doesn’t know the first thing about coding?
I am using Shreddit on Linux. It goes through each line in
comments.csvfrom the GDPR export I requested, which is more complete than the data PowerDeleteSuite gets access to. PowerDeleteSuite basically clicks through your comment history on old.reddit.com and submits edit requests, while Shreddit uses the powerful API (it’s not paid for personal use but you need to register the client, see the github page) and will find all comments thanks to the legally-mandated completeness of the GDPR export (if supplied; it will use the API to retrieve the comment list otherwise). BTW, you can alter thecomments.csvfor a custom filter (for example, I want to use a Czech string in Czech subreddits). You can use it on Windows (and it’s an easier installation) but because of non-POSIX shenanigans, newlines in the replacement string won’t work there.If using PowerDeleteSuite, make sure to download the log file it supplies before you close the window or your original comment content will be lost!
There are some reposting bot, Lemmit comes to mind
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You can’t guarantee better mods, those are volunteers/instance admins/staff of an instance admin and are people. There is nothing inherent to how Lemmy works that ensures that people tasked with moderating aren’t power hungry or in some way a bit of a dick. There was to my understanding, a certain draw to Lemmy over Reddit in that the federated nature means the actions of some power hungry moderator on one instance won’t leave you having no option but to accept their behaviour because you can just migrate to another instance to see and interact with the same content or even spin up your own instance, but that doesn’t make the mods themselves any different and that’s all in theory anyway. In practice there isn’t currently a way to migrate user accounts from one instance to another so if your account is of value to you and you’ve run afoul of some ban happy mod in one community on one instance, then you’ll have to make a whole new account on another instance if you want to circumvent them and interact in that same community again from another instance and in such a case if its identifiably still you, or you want to engage in the original behaviour that incurred their wrath then they’ll just ban you again from your new instance because a different protocol design doesn’t mean different people.
I like that we can escape from site admins. There’s some profound magical thinking going on at lemmy.ml. But I have unsubscribed to all their communities. I haven’t yet blocked it entirely but I could do that too.
Not only that but where do they think 3/4 of the mods went during the great migration and blackout out reddit?
Lemmy dudes. They haven’t gone anywhere lol. Hell, reddit feels even less moderated these days besides the usual stickler subs like /r/anime lmfao.
Lemmy makes it a bit easier to make competing communities. If enough people get angry at bad mods in a community they will migrate.
This already happened in Reddit, but competing communities had different names, and Lemmy also allows to escape bad admins and sites/instances.
