Maybe this doesn’t need to be said but this is a different question to which video game genres do you enjoy. For example, I enjoy playing Dota 2. Every few months or so, I’ll play it for a couple of weeks and put it back down. I’ll never play more than two or three matches and I feel ‘present’ for the duration.
Paradox grand strategy games (especially EUIV), however, I can start playing at 7am and in a blink of an eye it can be 11pm and I won’t have eaten or used the toilet or anything. I can do this for multiple days in a row. Furthermore, I don’t often feel like I’m ‘enjoying’ it. I’m just consumed by it.
I’m intrigued to hear whether or not anyone recognises this difference in themselves. If you have any insight as to why you’re consumed by some games and not others, I’d be very interested.
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factorio has stolen months from me
You’re not alone. Factorio induces hyperfocus in the neurotypical. You and I never stood a chance.
I only have 1000 hours in Factorio, what are you up to?
This also my be a bad ideal telling you, but there is a DLC coming out for Factorio and boy does it look good.
Only 244.6 hours but 99% of those were within a two week period last winter.
Soon the factory will grow to other planets.
Sounds like there’ll be shit growing on me by the time Factorio + Expansion lets go of me.
Comment as to why I think PDS grand strategy games have this effect on me. PDS games are ‘real time with pause’ and they have overlapping systems that work on different timelines. It means that there’s rarely a point to ‘offramp’ oneself, when you complete one task, you’re simultaneously 70% through another task, and it’s so easy just to chain ‘well, I’ll wait for this to finish’ endlessly.
Competitive multiplayer matches like Dota however, with discrete matches where everything resets, gives me a (healthy) change to ‘disengage’. I couldn’t ever imagine getting hyper-focused on them but I know that a lot of people are, which intrigues me.
I used to love playing DOTA 2, and with the new Ringmaster drop I played a few matches, but I’m being driven away by toxic teammates. Despite playing Unranked Turbo matches exclusively, I’ll still get people flaming my hero pick, or play style, or pausing for mean spirited reasons. It’s seemingly every match now. How has your experience been?
Mute early and often.
I couldn’t ever imagine getting hyper-focused on them but I know that a lot of people are, which intrigues me.
“Just one more…”
So, this is exactly why I started this thread! Rationally, I can see how it’d consume an ADHDer but emotionally, it just doesn’t make sense. Just because I haven’t personally experienced it. It’s why I’m intrigued to hear from people. Though most of the responses so far are other genres I too have hyperfocused on.
Basebuilders, 4Xs, Incrementals, and Survival Crafters
Once I burn out I try to stay away as long as possible for the sake of getting other things done and having a sane sleep schedule.
Compare with RPGs, farm sims, platformers, action adventure games, and roguelikes, which I can pick up and put down much more easily without disrupting other aspects of my life.
Thanks for providing examples that you enjoy but don’t induce hyper-focus. I relate to the ‘consciously’ avoiding aspect. Sadly PDS games are only ever like 2GB downloads, so uninstalling them only buys me like an hour of freedom.
What are Incrementals, out of curiosity?
Incremental games are a bit of an “I know it when I see it” grouping, but two typical characteristics are progression systems nested within each other and game loops that start simple but “flower” into a number of more detailed and mutually interacting ones over the course of play.
Universal Paperclips is a nice example, casting you as a newly built AI with the goal of making as many paperclips as you can. You start out able to make paperclips and sell them to humans for funds you can then use to invest in more capabilities. You work on building trust with the humans so they’ll let you do more things, and on making more clips faster, and there is a lot of escalation from these humble beginnings. Some other good ones are Cookie Clicker and, if you’re into programming puzzles, Bitburner.
Quick and twitchy FPS games. Reason I was so upset when roblox ditched wine support is because it deprived me of my daily dose of randomizer and bad business.
Vampire Survivor.
It’s very much like a Dragon Ball super fusion. For the next 20-30 minutes… I am fused with the game.
I got absolutely consumed by Dead cells. I put more hours into it in a few months than I did a game I’ve been playing with a friend for 5 years at the time. There’s another game in the same Genre that I can’t rember the name of, but the high skill, PVE games like those if they catch my eye, oof, I go HARD.
Factory games. Resource management… I get all caught up rebalancing inputs and outputs… This building needs an expansion to fit the new gears project… Over here we need more room for screws… Plates??? Why are all the plates gone!!! 🤬
And next thing you know it’s the next morning. Which is why I don’t play factorio too often.
I’ve only ever caught this with Factorio but it had me pretty bad. Do you have any other recommendations? I bought Dyson Sphere Program on sale but haven’t tried it yet.
Shapez 2 recently released in early access (still has release sale). While I love Factorio, Shapez has no enemies and infinite resources. Might make it more boring, but sometimes I find it really nice to just build some belts and not to worry about some sub-base being run over.
The trailer for Shapez fucking slapped. Biters in Factorio pissed me right off but that just added urgency to get defences setup which just sucked me in deeper. I could never play without them. I derive too much satisfaction from wrecking their shit, after they’ve been such a nuisance.
Satisfactory for me. I also bought Dyson Sphere on sale, but also haven’t tried it yet.
1.0 drops right when I actually have time to take vacation, scratches the same itch as some of the old Minecraft mod packs (so does factorio, I just really like building factories lol) I just really love watching things whip around.
Cheers
Get that picture away from me. I quit that game for my family and my health. I can’t let myself go back… Not even once…
Any Paradox game. Oxygen Not Included. Factorio. Civilization. Rimworld. Dwarf Fortress. The list goes on.
For me I think it’s about having non-stop and parallel mini problems/puzzles/goals. By the time one task is finished. There’s two more to take its place.
This is definitely important in making the very most engaging base-builders - a pleasing mixture of longer term goals (manufacture this piece that I can eventually put in a future science pack or whatnot) and under-performing pieces of your older infrastructure that you have to scale up or re-plan is just so helpful for getting you into that flow state.
An observation inspired by your comment. I love video game narratives; I often hate video game storytelling. PDS games tell me stories but there’s no cutscenes or stop in gameplay and the narratives are all dynamic.
I imagine Rimworld or Dwarf Fortress could be very dangerous for me.
Dwarf Fortress is, imo, much less crack-y than something like Factorio. It takes much less constant attention by how slow the game moves and how long your plans take to work out. I find my time in DF to be meditative and relaxing because I’m working towards a clear goal but can relax a lot of my reactions… Factorio is a game where you can do as fast as you can think (outside the early game) - even if you’re waiting on something there is always something else to obsess over.
Especially factorio with mods. I play with bob and angels mod which massively increases the complexity. I use infinite ore as well because anything on a timeline stresses me. I have over 2000 hrs in it.
Satisfactory minecraft and monster hunter
Games where the purpose is to optimize productivity, efficiency, and achieving accomplishments improve effectiveness. Or complex/realistic simulation games. So games like SimCity, Tropico, Kerbal Space Program, and MS Flight Simulator 2020.
It’s just too rewardingggg 🫨
Anything that gives me an adrenaline rush. Which usually only happens against real human players, but the first time through a good difficult game like a souls like works too.
Minecraft, if I’ve got a project to do.
I run a local server so that I can play with my kid, but I’m the one who has to actually get things done. Simple things like looking for diamonds is enough to keep me playing for hours. I’ll find a vein, and I think that’s not enough, I need to find more, so I’ll find half a dozen more veins, but then my brain switches to the ‘I may as well carry on’ mindset.
I mined a mountain down to ground level recently because the top was spoiling the view from our village, and once I started, it was quite soothing.
As a general rule, I tend to focus on a title or a series of {books,tv,movies,games,musician,etc}, consume it to death over the course of a handful of weeks/months, then lose interest and never touch it ever again.
I had a big Soulslike phase in the middle of the pandemic. Before that it was Rocket League. I’ve gamed very little these last months in between a million consecutive life events, but the little time I had to play was almost exclusively on Monster Hunter (I just reached Iceborne in MHW).
The one game I had a legitimately problematic relationship with was Counter Strike, as a teen and young adult. Nowadays, I still have the general game sense but the reflexes and skills are long gone, and I don’t have the time to dedicate to getting to a level I’d feel good at.
No one for rougelikes?
I dont even like them that much is just the only things I can play sometimes.
4X games, specifically any of the Civilization games I’ve played (everything but SMAC & Civ: Beyond Earth).
MMORPG, specifically Elder Scrolls Online.
Have you ever tried a Paradox Grand Strategy game?
