Ok, the title was an overuse of emojis as a joke. But seriously, I like some limited use of emojis because it helps me convey intention/emotion so that I’m less misunderstood and also adds some more feeling/fun to text content 😄
Their intentionally bland, unpleasant to look at, and it makes you look like you just got on to the internet for the first time in your life.
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I love them but that was a bit much. 🤨
I love them too 🙂
I love them too 🍆💦
Ngl i use emojis whenever too, i dont think anyone “hates them”, ive seen other people use emoticons too [eg, “:)”]
I hate them. Words are easy enough to misunderstand or misconstrue. Emojis take that to an entire other level.
Probably first time I met a person who hates emojis
It definitely depends on the instance, but as a whole it’s probably a bit of carryover culture from the other place where emoji are not generally accepted.
I don’t have any fundamental issue with emojis when they’re used to expand meaning or provide clarity. Eg you could use an emotive emoji to show/clarify the intent/emotion of something. Imo, using emojis in this way is no different than the practice of adding a “/s” to denote sarcasm. When they get annoying is when they’re used superfluously. If they serve no purpose, then it’s just clutter.
To be fair, i dislike them everywhere
Even from the before times
I like one or two at the end of the sentence to help relay tone. As seen in:
OMG! HE’S DYING! 😂
OMG! HE’S DYING! 😭
Those are useful emojis.
The best part is when boomers can’t tell them apart. “Grandma died 😂”
Especially if they also misuse acronyms.
“Grandma died LOL 😂”
Loved out of life 👻
They’re great! Obviously they can be annoying when overused (unless as a joke), but I would never want to go back to a world without emojis. 😌
Lemmy has a lot of grumpy old folks who fear change so it just comes with the territory.
Odd because why would such people switch to a new platform?
Because they didn’t like the direction Reddit was heading I guess? But I don’t know the full answer. I’ve just noticed that Lemmy seems to skew older than I would have expected.
Maybe it’s just reflecting the demographics of the tech-savvy open source enthusiasts that might be interested in such a project? Are there young people with such interests still? And if so where are they?
I’m also old, just not as grumpy as some, so I don’t really know what the young people are up to nowadays. Most I know in person seem to be on TikTok and instagram but that’s not the tech crowd, if they’re out there somewhere.
My dyslexic brain gets upset with this mid-sentence emoji usage. Takes much more time and effort to read and interpret.
Are you using the opendyslexic font?
Comic Sans?
Often yes, though most sans serif fonts work well enough for me.
I looked into that font when I head about it. Peer reviewd studies seem to agree with you. It’s also mainly the size and reglar spacing that helps.
This font is awesome, and I cannot fathom why Apple will not let me use it even in the Books app, much less anywhere else.
Because they didn’t want you to read the
traumaterms of service betterFather Apple protects us from all wickedness , including autonomy and any choice unconsidered by Him, mhm.
Using them like the title here, I hate them too. You only need a few, and they should be conveying the same emotion that the text is being written as. 😮💨
They can be pretty good at expressing sarcasm. Especially the eye roll one.
“Yeah. Because that looks good. 🙄”
Emojis to me are like a strongly flavored seasoning. It’s only appropriate in specific contexts, and even in those contexts, just a pinch goes a long way. Too much and it can detract from the experience.
Emojipasta is grossly overseasoned food. But that’s the point, obviously. It’s the emoji version of those white women on Tiktok who throw three pounds of ground beef wrapped around an entire block of cheese in a baking sheet full of milk and bake it in the oven for rage clicks.
Me, personally, I usually don’t need emoji seasoning. I’m fine with it plain. Besides, most emojis to me have all the class of drowning your entire meal in ranch dressing. There are a very small handful of exceptions. But that’s just my lame opinion.
And of the ones I do find theoretically useful, I’m always hesitant to use them, because emoji rendering is platform specific. They’re not quite like text, where the glyphs are entirely utilitarian and typeface it’s written in conveys little to no information. But with emojis, the subleties pile up. A thinking emoji rendered on a Windows PC isn’t quite the same as a thinking emoji on an iPhone, or various kinds of Android phones. Unless I’m on a platform like Twitter or Discord that forces all clients to use a single emoji set, I can never confidently send a precise emotion with an emoji.
Platforms like Discord that let you create your own emojis instead of using the comparatively sterile, corporate-approved, general purpose set provided in standard Unicode is another story. I like those and use them extensively. If Lemmy natively supported a Discord-esque system where instances or communities could define custom emojis that didn’t rely on custom clients, plugins, or instance-specific rendering hacks, I’d use them all the time. Though this would, I presume, be to the extreme chagrin of many.
Because, emojis, breakup, the, flow, of, a, sentence, like, a, comma. Using too, many, makes, it, sound, like, you, are, straining, to 💩.
Huh, never understood it till now. 100% how my inner monolog read the title.
Do add to your point making all those movements while talking make you seem crazy.
Because I’m a millennial semi-luddite who (typically) prefers emoticons.*
*Contrary to popular opinion, emoticons ≠ emoji.
:)
is an emoticon, while🙂
is an emoji. (Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. Lol.)YES, emoticons are so much better than emojis!
They’re objectively not.
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They are not objectively better or worse overall, though one or the other may be objectively better in individual contexts.
Individual people may prefer one over the other, though. I am one of them.
In what context where both are available are emoticons objectively better?
This one (o;)
Well, if you’re typing on a computer as opposed to a phone, for instance, it’s typically a lot easier to type out an emoticon as opposed to an emoji. Therefore, emoticons would likely be objectively better.
Likewise, if you’re typing on a smartphone, most people have an emoji drawer they can pop open in a jiffy and choose what they want.
Then again, even in both of these situations, it also depends on what crowd you’re in: some people honestly just prefer emoticons because it’s what they grew up with, like me; others prefer emoji, for varying reasons.
Most instances where one is objectively better suited than the other are based on subjective criteria.
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Lol, I like that. xD
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by definition they should really be the same though or at least both qualifying as emoticons. emoji are more icons than emoticons are, and the translation from japanese is literally just picture letter/symbol
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I never said emoticons are icons.
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Emoji are picture-like and each one is a single-glyph.
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Emoticons are not picture-like but resemble letters or punctuation, and are typically composed of multiple glyphs to make a coherent whole.
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I have nothing to add but Cartman
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Imagine if every language in the world used the exact same alphabet, exact same words with the exact same spelling, and exact same sentences but the meaning of those words/sentences varied from person to person, region to region, in different contexts, and sometimes changed day to day. Then on top of that, the words even rendered differently from device to device.
Additionally, there was no way to look up what those words meant to the person writing them, who you don’t even know. Even if you ask for clarification, there’s less than 50% chance they’ll respond at all, let alone provide a sincere, meaningful, and accurate answer.
That’s what emojis are like to me. Sure, some of these same complaints apply to text-based communication as well, but emojis take it to the extreme.
I don’t typically care that much if people use them – for instance, to reinforce the meaning or intention of their message. But it’s mildly annoying when the emojis are a message all of their own and that person is trying to communicate with me.
Additionally, there’s an extremely high degree of correlation between people and messages that use a bunch of emojis and actual quality of the message/meaning being sent. In other words, if someone’s using a lot of emojis to communicate, I can pretty much completely disregard anything they have to say because it almost certainly holds no value to me. And that’s okay.
So maybe in a broader sense, comments/titles/descriptions with lots and lots of emojis is annoying similar to seeing advertisements at the top of my search results and interspersed in the front page posts. It’s useless drivel that mucks up the experience.
And even to use your description as an example:
I don’t understand at all how that emoji is necessary or even insightful. It seems completely contradictory to the “But seriously” at the start of the sentence, it doesn’t seem like anybody with any degree of reading comprehension would mistake what you’re saying as being something negative/nasty/mean/hurtful/etc so it’s like if I ended my sentence with “and I’m currently chewing gum”. Okay, nice to know I guess, but why would I need to be told that?
well yeah if the person writes 😪😔🤥 it’s not clear what they mean, but this poster gave an example sentence that’s pretty unambiguous, and is using the emoji as a tool to make it even more unambiguous, are they not? 🤔
Just feels unfair to lump 🗨💣💨🤳 style emoji usage with “let me put 😆 to make it more clear this is a joke” 🥺 (also sometimes it’s just what the writer is feeling, rather than trying to be clear communication)
Perhaps. I’m not chewing gum anymore right now.
The point of the emoji at the end was to “add some more feeling/fun to text content,” like if I ended a comment with “I couldn’t stop smiling while writing this.” It’s irrelevant but it changes the flavor of the text.
Besides that, many lemmy users are on the spectrum and will read “Donald Trump is known for his great border policies” in a comment that it’s clear they’re joking, and they will still have -5 score and comments arguing with them until the poster says “it was a joke.” Compare that to “Donald Trump is known for his great border policies 🤡” or 🙄 or 💀 depending on how obvious you want to be. It’s just a tool that can be misused or annoying like anything else.
This actually is a good point and is one of the reasons that overuse of emojis can be annoying for some folks. Basically it boils down to the fact that a lot of people using them don’t use them effectively or in a way that provides any “value” to the reader.
For an otherwise clear and benign statement, a grinning emoji to signify that the writer wants their statement to be “fun” isn’t particularly useful, relevant, nor insightful for the reader. At best, it comes across as unnecessary filler like an ad at the end of a sentence. It makes no difference, it’s just there for the writer’s own pleasure. Nothing wrong with that, but hopefully you can see that it would be annoying for some folks.
On the other hand, using emojis effectively, like putting one after making a sarcastic statement provides insight and meaning to people reading. In other words, it has value for the audience, provides useful context. A lot less annoying to people when they actually derive some benefit from it.
One issue is, a whole lot of people don’t recognize this and/or don’t care.
Yeah but those jeans 😳
Yeah but those jeans 😏
Yeah but those jeans 😍
Yeah but those jeans 🤮
there was no way to look up what those words meant to the person writing them