Oh you sweet, summer child. After the election ends, we’re going to have at least a month of coordinated all-out fighting from the fascists to stop the votes from being certified – if Georgia’s and Arizona’s popular vote results get accurately reflected in the final EC tally it’ll be a minor miracle – and years of “stop the steal” election denial and stochastic terrorism after that.
And that’s the best-case scenario.
Precisely. The real ugliness and violence is currently only simmering. The election is when the boil begins. And the boilover comes after that.
Remember: if Trump wins, there will be disorder, dispersed violence, and then state violence: mass deportations and the disruption and dissolution of various dimensions of the state itself as fascism assumes the helm.
If Trump loses, there will be broad social conflict, disorder, and intensive violence, including a rise in domestic terrorism. I’m actually concerned we will see something like “The Troubles” in Ireland. Federal and state agencies and institutions will be attacked as well as infrastructure: things like power stations and bridges.
There is no threading the needle here. Either scenario results in chaos and violence. Both scenarios result in an increase in danger and a decrease in stability. There’s no winning move. We’ll think back to this moment as “the good days.” Strap in.
To be clear, Trump losing (not just the vote, but also his inevitable attempt to seize power anyway afterward) is definitely the vastly preferable scenario here – “Troubles” are way better than a full-blown dictatorship – so stopping him is, if not “the” winning move, at least the do-or-die first step towards it.
There is no validity to a dismissive “eh, either way it’s gonna be bad” attitude here. We are in an existential fight to achieve “pretty bad” because the alternative is “absolutely catastrophic.”
Recognizing that things are going to bad regardless of who is elected is simple pragmatism. There’s nothing dismissive about it at all. Quite the opposite.
Harris winning the election (which, in terms of the electoral college, she’s currently on pace to narrowly lose), will not decrease the amount of active fascists in the United States, so, regardless of who wins, there’s going to be trouble and there’s going to be a lot of work to do that can’t be done with upvotes, downvotes, or social media posts.
It would be wise for people to be prepared for what is to come. Ignoring it makes it worse.
They turn into Namibia?
Don’t worry Lemmy will always have bean posts to prop them up.
Lemmy.ml after the Russian money dries up
Wait, it’s already over?
God, I can’t wait. Hopefully, at least a few months of peace before the midterms start going.
peace
(Subject to availability in your area)
I can’t wait.
block the necessary keywords and enjoy the calmness
Lemmy with a politics blocklist must be very different. Is there a channel that shares lists?
I have a very long list of blocked political keywords and yet somehow Lemmy users find a way to make political posts that get around all my filters. It is very frustrating. So now I have started just blocking individual users if they post about politics, because a person that posts about it once is most likely going to do it again.
Lemmy without politics is kinda a ghost board. There is maybe 3 or 4 new posts a day. For someone who is not so active, its not much of a problem, but compared to Reddit it is highly frustrating that so much Lemmy content is about politics.
Lemmy without politics is kinda a ghost board. There is maybe 3 or 4 new posts a day.
I think your approach of blocking any user who posts about politics is eliminating the most prolific posters when 95% of their stuff is non-political. This is not to say your approach is bad, just that it doesn’t actually represent “Lemmy without politics”.
i dont know, but i have common names from us politics and its mostly quiet.
trump, boebert, kamala, musk…
i dont mind politics in general as long as its not that hypersensationalized us vs them american stuff.
You have to block regular words like “weird” now. It’s too ubiquitous. Might as well stay offline until Christmas.
Remember the dark years from 2016-2020? Doom scrolling became a huge thing back then. It’s not going to stop if we fall back, again. It’ll be doom scroll after doom scroll of rights being stripped, of the president looking like a fool globally, etc. never ending shit storm.
If the other person gets elected? Someone’s going to complain that she got her nails done on taxpayer dollars.
Trump visited a Trump property 428 out of 1461 days of his term, and he played 261 rounds of golf, about 1/5 of days of his term. Almost $150 million charged to American taxpayers, for him to travel there with full security, play an 90-stroke game, kick his ball, called it 65 strokes to his friends, make dirty deals without oversight, travel back with security, eat a cheeseburger and angry tweet from the toilet. Every 5 days. Laziest president we’ve ever had.
To be honest, it’s his only redeeming quality. Imagine someone equally evil and selfish but smart and competent.
The apparatus around him is exactly that: evil, selfish, and smart. Project 2025 is only one example of how the mistakes of Trump’s laziness will not be repeated. There’s now a motivated and strategic fascist leadership and engaged bureaucracy ready to be emplaced as soon as he assumes power this time.
I think you underestimate the sheer incompetence of Trump. He will work as a handbrake impeding the implementation of Project 2025.
Doubtful, but I’m happy to wish with you.
Great point!
Despite his horribly lacking social skills, Vance is that capable and corrupt.
Yes. It’s why here’s there.
Notice how they put him as soon as Trump started denying project 25. Perhaps all bullshit for the public but maybe not all bs. The Heritage Foundation might have actually gotten a bit spooked and put in a good yes man like Vance.
50,000 bots use to post here. Now it’s a ghost town.
There was a userbase here. It’s gone now.
This is aspirational. The election is going to get dragged out as long as possible and then longer and then there will be violence unless we win the lottery :(
Just you wait until Harris wears a tan suit 😆
We can finally get back to leftist infighting
And the Stör memes!
And my axe!
You my rage fits
