• Elkot@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    I don’t speak crazy, can someone explain Trumps issue with Greenland to me, thanks

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      Imo, Greenland has fossil fuel reserves they’re not tapping in order to protect the environment. USA wants the natural resources, but Greenland not being brown people or “the wrong kind of white people”, Greenland a member of NATO, invading Greenland outright risks ww3 without being able to blame anyone other than the USA. I could be wrong, though, I’m not a geopolitics wonk.

    • lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
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      8 days ago

      Territorialism. He thinks he can just demand Denmark to sell Greenland to him, but neither Denmark nor Greenland are having any of it. Big Baby didn’t think he’d get pushback and does what he does best: get pissed.

  • Drusas@fedia.io
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    Frederiksen offered closer co-operation with the US on military bases and mineral exploitation on the island, but senior European officials said Trump baulked at the offer, demanding full US control.

    You could get everything without being a colonialist bully! FFS.

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      10 days ago

      I was hoping it would say someone finally told Trump, “Bitch, get back in your place because no one is putting up with your shit.” Imagine my disappointment at the reasonable attempt to lower tensions and appease.

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        10 days ago

        Serious politicians (and I use that term loosely) are not used to dealing with someone as utterly demented as trump on a daily basis. They’re used to long boring meetings and talking politely behind each others backs. Not … this.

        People had a hard time understanding Hitler at first, too, and he wrote a fucking book about what he was about to do before he actually went and did it.

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        Trump is head of state of the most powerful country in the world, with a Supreme Court that seems willing to crown him king, and he’s psychologically unstable. You can’t tell a man like that to fuck off.
        Thanks, Americans, for putting us all in this situation.

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    10 days ago

    I can’t wait for the US to enter the “find out” phase. It will take some time, sure, but heh, hubris always invites nemesis.

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      10 days ago

      Yeah… Some country’s “find out” phase in history occurred only after unspeakable horrors were committed and the country was crushed jnto submission by an international coalition. So… Idk

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        10 days ago

        Yea I dont think anyone is going to enjoy the “find out” phase of this one. Maybe Putin, if he lives that long.

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    10 days ago

    Sorry for multiple posts, but my points are different.

    Impose tariffs on Denmark? Do you all know what we import from Denmark? Medication and medical devices. So that would further increase the cost of healthcare in the US. He already signed an executive order to undo the $35 insulin cap for Medicaid recipients. He is actively raising healthcare prices.

    Tariffs would only hurt both countries.

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    Trump ginning up beef with Greenland and Panama, for “security” and “defense” is all simply to grant geopolitical cover to Putin for Russia’s invasion and ultimate annexation of Ukraine. “Watch me do the same thing as Russia for the same reasons” gives the world a second Imperialist foil, regardless of Trump’s actual intent.

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      10 days ago

      I don’t feel safe, so I’m going to take my neighbours land. Then the bastard says no, and tells me to leave. I came back with a few friends to tell him he has no choice, or we will take it by force.

      Now all my neighbours are angry at me. I don’t understand it, I’m just trying to feel safe!

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    At what point is someone going to tell Donald that the end result of pushing and pushing on this narrative to the point of realization… Is going to result in Article 5 being activated, Europe and NATO formally going to war against the US, and the US tearing itself apart as factions decide to move to the Ammo box after the soap, ballot and jury boxes failed.

    This is absolutely a red line. and it will cause a civil war. as well as the total destruction of the world order. Xi and Putin may end up getting so erect that they die of heart attacks.

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    9 days ago

    I love that the map in the article only labels a few locations, but one of them is the Gulf of Mexico.

    Nice subtle dig at the man-baby.

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    9 days ago

    Hope the US empire goes crumbling down now that the fascist wanna be dictator is in power.

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    fuck the citizens of the usa

    i think it is safe to say there is absolutely no place left where ppl dont hate on you now.

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      I like to think people are reasonable enough to separate the politician from the citizens.

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        9 days ago

        I’m in the US, I voted against Trump, I’m likely going to suffer if he is able to accomplish a smidgen of what he has talked about, and I think we got what we deserved and the sentiment from your OP is valid. I know a lot of innocent people are going to suffer, but this is a country of very selfish people. Even some of the most liberal people I have met in this country still have a very selfish mindset and reason for the liberal bent. As soon as they attain a position where they have an advantage they basically pull up the ladder. I’m personally tired of it.

        People are going to die, ecosystems are going to burn, countries may very well fall. My only hope is that things only get bad enough that the masses learn an important lesson that at least lasts for their generation and that recovery is possible in that time frame.

        It’s not that I don’t care. It’s not even that I don’t have the fight left in me. I just don’t see any kind of path to a better place without substantial harm occurring first. I will not be happy to be right. I want to be wrong.

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        9 days ago

        I feel your frustration but this isn’t a petty dictator with his boot on his people’s neck. He was elected. The US, as a nation, chose this. You are choosing your new allies and your new enemies and being quite clear about it.

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          With how much ratfuckery we already know about, and how much we likely don’t, I genuinely have doubts he was actually elected.

          Regardless, the supermajority of US citizens did not vote for him.

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            9 days ago

            A supermajority didn’t vote against him either, and a plurality of eligible voters didn’t give enough of a shit to even show up.

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            9 days ago

            Every single eligible voter who did not vote was complicit in his victory. A supermajority of voters were fine with this result.

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              I would argue that the supermajority weren’t fine with this result, these real life consequences, but were under a collective cope/delusion that “Killer Kamala” was a “weak woman” but also a warhawk who just wanted to genocide lots of people in Gaza and prolong the war in Ukraine, and Trump was going to bring peace and prosperity and lower the cost of living.

              Americans are mostly stupid, poorly educated, gullible, and easily deceived by low effort promises.

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                If they couldn’t take their collective heads out of their assess for the 5 nanoseconds it should take to see through Trump’s crusty veneer, then they were, in fact, fine with it.

                “I didn’t care”, “I didn’t know”, and any other form of ignorance is inexcusable, especially after his first term in office. Did they think he’d changed somehow?

      • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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        i am from germany. should we apply your stupid argument on ww2?

        no. fuck the americans. they voted for shitbag twice rather than a women. i dont see mass protests. it is the people. the american people are living the idiocracy by choice.

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        I agree and hope so too. I think a lot of the frustration and hate comes from Trump actually having been elected. Basically, if you meet someone who voted, there is about a 50:50 chance that they have voted for this. When your vote influences not just your own country but the entire world, that guarantees blame and anger from others.

        Now, you can argue whether elections are fair when one party is funded by billionaires and has access to media to spread any misinformation they want. Gerrymandering and a lot of other practices surely play a role in making this not absolutely fair. Let alone that insanity of a two party system. But at the end of the day, this is still an elected president, who even won the public vote, if I remember correctly. It is not the same as obviously rigged elections as in, for example, Russia (where people get even much more hate for their president, as if they had the power to vote or change anything).

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      That’s bullshit. Hate the government, not its people. The number of people who DIDN’T vote for that shitbag is more than every country in Europe except for Germany, Turkey, and Russia.

      • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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        8 days ago

        That’s a you problem. Get your fucking dog back on a leash. Most US voters voted for this and the ones who don’t vote don’t matter.

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          It’s an everywhere problem. Far-right candidates are winning elections all over the world. The US, as usual, is going over the top and is speedrunning towards the Fourth Reich, but we won’t be the only ones if everyone else doesn’t get their shit together as well.

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            7 days ago

            Far-right candidates in other countries aren’t openly musing about annexing allies through military force.

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              Not yet, no. If they’re allowed to continue unimpeded they’ll likely go the same way the US is now.

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    As an European it’s pretty clear now that the US is our enemy. This is just the start. We really need to put our military in order and prepare for the inevitable attack.

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      9 days ago

      As an Australian I wish we’d negotiate to join the EU. Philosophically we have more in common with the EU then America and together is better.

      But we cant even join with New Zealand and od not ne suporsed if the EU didnt want us, I’d not want us, though we do all seem to mostly hate immigrants so we have that in common :(

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        Our previous governments have tied us to the US so tightly that we may as well be a US vassal state. Whatever America’s foreign policy is, is Australia’s policy. Our military is dependent on the US for its equipment.

        It would be great to have more ties to the EU and SE Asian counties but thats unlikely to happen unfortunately.

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      9 days ago

      It’s impossible to catch up to the US war machine in 4 years only. We can only start the process, but I also doubt the US would sit by idly and let us become too powerful.

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      Don’t worry. The US may have the most experienced, well funded, and outfitted military on the planet, but the bafoons at the top keep getting in the way of the military executing a war the way it wants to.

      See: Iraq 2, WMD boogaloo, or the cult classic Vietnam: Congress goes to war.

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        You really aren’t even joking at all. This is what happens when Congress gets out of the way of the military.

        https://youtu.be/rD2C1H-dzzI

        Dude has a channel dedicated to telling the unbelievable stories of what our soldiers have done when the leash comes off.

        Warning: dude is a conservative, so his takes on socialism and communism are what you’d expect

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          I wasn’t kidding in the slightest. If the DoD had executed the second Iraq invasion it would have taken a few days. But Rumsfeld and his croneys insisted on it being done their way, and they didn’t know shit about fuck when it came to warfare. (Note: this may have been because Rumsfeld was lying and committing crimes that, had the military done things the way they wanted, would have been exposed.)

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    The man is utterly deranged. During his last term, one of the few things I was grateful for was that he didn’t start a new war. Apparently, he’s planning to make up for that.

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    Summary:

    In a recent 45-minute phone call, U.S. President Donald Trump reiterated his demand for the United States to gain control over Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory. Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen firmly responded that Greenland is not for sale. According to European officials, the conversation was aggressive, with Trump threatening punitive tariffs against Denmark if it refused to relinquish control of Greenland. Frederiksen proposed enhanced cooperation on military bases and mineral exploitation in Greenland, but Trump dismissed these offers, insisting on full U.S. control. This development has heightened concerns in Europe about strained transatlantic relations, especially following Trump’s recent threats of heavy tariffs on the EU and demands for increased defense spending from NATO allies.

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        Why is Denmark even offering anything at all

        As others have pointed out, the US play here is likely to be stopping payments for the current US military based in Greenland but not leaving, testing its limits (operating outside of the designated areas), and generally just begging for a response. At this point the Danish (and the EU generally) will have to choose - if they do nothing then it’ll encourage more of this BS in Greenland and elsewhere. If they respond with any force it’ll be what Trump wants. He’ll use it as pretense for…whatever he wants to do.

        This behaviour will make it far less likely that all of the US international partners will renew military base leases or sign new ones, and long term it will diminish American military power globally, but nobody in MAGA let alone Trump are really thinking beyond the immediate anyways.

        So the answer your question, the Danes are trying to avoid all of that BS.

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        Denmark is normally otherwise an ally of the US.

        However, this call has spooked the Danes. There will 100% be escalations from the Danes to protect themselves as a result.