https://x.com/roybelly/status/1882945942477029771
Context for the title, in case you’re wondering: https://archive.is/UL7jK
If Jesus showed up he would be considered a radical woke liberal.
“Love your neighbor” somehow became report your neighbor to ICE
To be fair to Trump, ideology is always co-opted and interpreted however convenient. The Nazis were “socialist” after all. NK is a people’s republic. etc
love is illegal in the US
And then they discovered the true meaning of Christianity, not a story about the son of the Creator preaching and living faith, charity and humility, but a scheme to blame the murder of that prophet which was committed by the Romans who founded the church, on the ethnic group the prophet came from, the Jewish group which was historically enslaved and persecuted by the Romans.
The biggest myth in the bible isn’t whether Jesus existed, or Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, tricked by the serpent (although establishing the reason for humanity’s inherent evil, the whole justification for religious belief itself, according to some, is a big one). The biggest myth is the one that makes you the main perpetrator of your own suffering, while the victimizers live in palaces and mansions where most suffering can never touch them.
We should have listened when Nietzsche said “God is dead, and we have killed him.” If we had listened maybe we would have asked what had replaced him. And if someone says “nothing” then they still believe the biggest myths of the bible.
They should change the name of the “no true Scotsman” fallacy to “no true Christian.” I swear, nobody relies on that shit more than they do.
I get the sentiment for this one, but the pastor in question is simply acting like they’re above the law. Hemant Mehta (AKA “The Friendly Atheist”) covered this story on his YouTube channel:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrlUNGFVN4I&pp=ygUgVGhlIGZyaWVuZGx5IGF0aGVpc3Qgb2hpbyBwYXN0b3I%3D
The short of it is that where this pastor’s church is set up is not in the right zone for housing people, the building isn’t designed for it, and he’s actually puttinf them in danger. And on top of having already been in trouble for this once, I found out in the process of finding the first video that he’s still doing it!
That said, I still up-voted the post, because while the pastor is actually in the wrong, so is the state. There’s zero reason why these people should have to resort to sheltering in a building that isn’t safe just to avoid succumbing to the elements.
Wow, the guy you linked comes off as a total tool. Pretty much all the city violations he’s creepily giddy to list off with his Ajit Pai smile all turn into a moot point when the alternative is LITERALLY SLEEPING ON THE STREET. You think someone gives a single shit if there aren’t enough visible exit signs? You think they care if the functioning smoke detectors don’t have a record of regular inspections? He also lists off how “dangerous” the homeless are, with their drug use and past crimes. Yea, they’re fucking homeless. What? You think they all have a squeaky clean record?
Look at the violations he listed and ask yourself how many of those probably apply to your own place of residence. When was the last time you had a fire inspector come and certify that your fire alarms were working? Does your house have fire sprinklers in every room? If you have a propane grill, is the tank stored up to restaurant code, or is it just stored outside on the ground? Do you have a record of when you last replaced the vent tube on your dryer? No? Oh ok. So maybe people aren’t immediately in mortal danger when those codes aren’t followed. And yes, there’s a reason for the codes; but none of them should stand in the way of desperate people seeking shelter from the elements.
There’s always more to the story. I’m not going to say the pastor is entirely blameless as it does sound like the city gave him multiple opportunities to fix violations. But when the fight is between a local government (which are notorious for anti-homeless regulations) throwing out a list of what seem like very nitpicky issues, and a guy literally just trying to give the most downtrodden people a temporary place to sleep and wash their clothes, I’m leaning toward the guy housing people being the one in the right.
How can a building be safe at one point of the day, but suddenly unsafe during another? That sounds like an idiotic code designed to punish exactly this.
In real terms, no, the risks are very low. Far lower than dying exposed in the gutter outside.
In code terms, the laws are based in safety and to keep people from slumlording.
Semi-public sleeping areas need to provide accessible beds, adequate fire alarms/suppression, and sufficient bathroom/sanitation access. Think of it like the requirements to run an actual shelter.
Ideally, this would be a temporary situation, and they’d either relocate the people to somewhere with facilities or, if they intend to run a shelter, properly convert the church.
The actual code this church violated has to do with the plot of land, not the building itself. It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with the people controlling how others use land they didn’t own.
“the sin of empathy” has been a Christian doctrine in conservative circles for a few years (at least since 2019).
Churches with universalist doctrines were supporting social change. The Christian reactionaries did their thing by organizing themselves in opposition to this change. Some particularly conservative Baptist called Rigney decided to avoid emacipatory arguments all together and attack what he saw as the pillar concept instead: empathy. 2019 https://ghostarchive.org/archive/UXWex
Also in classic reactionary style, he was cribbing off left thought. Empathy has been a target for criticism from the left going back to at least 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_Empathy
I don’t have theological opinions. But I feel like the culture I grew up in valued empathy maybe a little too much. I used to believe that people who did the horrible things lacked empathy. But that can’t be a universal truth. I see people celebrating the cruelty in policies like mass deportation. You can’t enjoy somebodies pain if you can’t recognize it. I’ve also come to learn that being cruel to others can be pro-social.
I’m sure somewhere in the bible, there is a line to justify the lack of empathy. Regardless of factions and sects, any religious person would not be doing what they do if it isn’t prescribed in their sacred text.
The entire Old Testament was about a “jealous god” going around committing genocide based on perceived slights. You can find something in there to justify any horrific shit.
It really seems like they’re on the verge of just accepting that they’re evil but deciding that that’s good
Isaiah, verse 5:20, which says, “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness.”
The Bible’s just chock full of biting criticism and warnings against the behavior of people who pretend their hate and bigotry is a tradition they must follow.
Looked into the Church,
There is no such thing as a “sin of empathy” and the dude who came up with that phrase is a fascist shitbag.
I dunno. Sithrak may be offended by empathy, kindness and compassion. He’s a pain and misery kind of god.
He is an insane god for insane times.
I know this is going to be a wildly unpopular opinion: regulations like these are written in blood. There was apparently no real effort to make the church properly habitable. People would be just as outraged (or more) if this headline was describing 18 charred bodies found in a burned down church that was REPEATEDLY told to do things the right way.
If this was anything other than performative or a malicious attempt to secure lawsuits and/or headlines, the church would have been updated, they would have secured an appropriate facility, or these people would be in the congregation’s homes.
The only thing worse then inadequate housing is no fucking housing in the winter
Couldn’t make it past one paragraph, article or comment 👍.
Sorry, i get where your coming from, but if they were actually interested in helping or protecting the homeless, they would have stepped in to assist in an emergency. But their intention is to make the homeless problem “disappear”
regulations like these are written in blood
Absolutely 100% completely. But in this case it I’m not sure the church is actually violating codes, but rather the city is using the claim as a smokescreen to punish them for helping homeless people.
This article quotes the city.
Bryan’s planning and zoning administrator gave the church 10 days to stop housing people, saying it was in a zone that does not permit residential use on the first floor.
You’re right, but people won’t want to hear it. The people on the other side are right, too - it isn’t better to freeze to death than it is to die from smoke inhalation. But you just don’t violate fire code in public buildings, or people die. Anyone could list dozens of examples of this happening with tragic results after a basic web search.
The correct response to this situation would have been for the city government to assist the pastor in meeting the fire code, especially since he is providing a valuable public service by housing the people that nobody else wants to help.
Instead of a peaceful solution that probably would have been cheap to the taxpayer and could have been a PR bonus for the city, they chose to smack him with the letter of the law. Because people freezing to death in the streets isn’t their fault, but people burning to death after the city overlooked a fire code violation would be. All they care about is their liability.
The problem is that this fire code wasn’t written in blood, it was written in cash. The specific code they were violating was that commercial zones cannot house people on the first floor. That’s it. There’s no actual safety issue there.
Just so we’re clear, that’s the ground floor?
Correct- in other words, the one that is fastest and easiest to get out of in the case of a fire.
Kinda surprised Americans don’t worship Constantine.
Isn’t that the name of the Keanu Reeves movie about the guy who killed himself and now he’s damned for all time and works for the Church, and the Archangel Gabriel was there, but he was played by a woman who kinda looks like the “perfect” chick from Fifth Element?
“angels” are not male or female
Comparing Tilda Swinton to Mila Jovavich is an interesting choice.
Blame the autistic facial blindness that I have
If they cared about history before 1776 they would.
The world was created only about 3000 years ago. There was no world before AMERICA
What would Jesus do
Jesus turns water into wine. The human body is 70% water. Earth is like 60% water. Jesus was an alcoholic.
Does that mean Jesus could cause people to become intoxicated? Assuming he can control how much of the water gets turned into wine so he doesn’t just immediately kill the person he could pull off some fun pranks.
I mean…thats how I took it when I went to catholic school.
Also in catholic school, they never did answer the question of why we drank jesus’s blood, and ate his body. Why is that ok? And how did we STILL have so much left to go around so many centuries after his death?
These answers went unanswered to me in 2nd grade. I did get to hang out in the principals office though.
That’s Catholic education for you - fill kids heads with abject nonsense, go full authoritarian when they ask for clarification, then later cry about lack of mass attendance when they grow up and want nothing to do with your institution
…dude, were you IN my class? Or…ya know…what’s going on here? How are you narriating my childhood 30+ years later???
Catholic school wasn’t so bad. I got a good education. And when I went to college I saw all these kids from public high schools who didn’t know shit, asking dumbass questions. For all my general education requirements I hardly had to study anything. Also they should have taught you about trsnsubstsatiation which would answer your question. Even though it’s not “real”, it explains the concept in their belief system.
TIL Jesus was probably 70% wine instead of 70% water
…huh. Is that why he kept so well?
I used to be the same but then I sobered up somewhat and now I’m only 10% wine. (depending on the day… usually 0%! Sometimes 90%…)
Country that has never once given a shit about fire codes suddenly discovers an excuse to arbitrarily emiserate dozens of people.
Probably should give a shit about fire codes everywhere else too tbqh
I’d love to talk shit about the current administration too, but I’ve been in buildings where fire inspectors would cut off the power cords of any space heaters they found because they violated code.
I’ve never seen a fire inspector in any building I’ve worked in. Twenty five years on the job and it’s never happened.
And I’ve personally witnessed the fire marshal annually inspect my last 3 jobs. I may not have been present for the inspections at other jobs.
I’ve been working about ~15 years and every job I’ve ever had I’ve seen a fire inspector about 6 times
I believe you, but your anecdote isn’t really evidence of anything.
The people who hire the fire inspectors don’t actually care, but the fire inspectors do. Probably because they’ve smelled far more charred human flesh than anyone should.
This is a lot like how our government is all concerned about National Security™ when it comes to pretty much anything else, but a bipartisan bill, supported by both of the last 2 presidents, and upheld unanimously by our current dysfunctional Supreme Court, with National Security™ as the excuse, and we still have Tiktok.
Laws are only there so the ruling class can keep us in line and them in power, and they will never be enforced homogenously.
Amazing how hard Dems worked to turn TikTok into another far right media platform.
Exactly what do you thinks fines do! If you’re rich, fines don’t matter… if you’re poor, go to jail for not being able to pay a fine.
Trump is the great Deceiver, like Lucifer he casts a light in darkness, and just like Lucifer all who follow that light expecting to find freedom will only find damnation.
Completely true. Now we just need to convince everyone else
