This is reported as a percentage and that’s what is tripping people up here.
You are not seeing a drastic rise in Linux usage you are seeing a large decrease in the use of desktop computers.
Linux is increasing because the only ones left using desktops are Linux users.
Nice explanation but here is a graph with desktop percentage included (versus mobile plus tablet, but that isn’t shown)
This graph gives me some Corona flashbacks.
I was confused why they used Swedish flag colors for a Norwegian graph
Well you see. 1905 never happened, and we are all under Sweden still. /s
The welfare of the brother peoples.
Is that where all the government computers run Ubuntu?
You’re thinking of Switzerland
Ah, thanks! I knew it was somewhere.
I’m a Norwegian Linux enthusiast and have never heard anything about the government using Ubuntu or Linux. Seems unlikely, from what I know. I know that within healthcare Windows is still widely used, even on the server side…
On the other hand, a lot of software for official services is being developed as open source now, so that’s at least a good step in the right direction. Example: https://github.com/navikt
Norwegian government loves windows, so yea, I really doubt it. (by it, I mean the government using Ubuntu thing)
Source: I used to work for the Norwegian government
edit: added explanation to “it”, so not to be as confusing to what I refered to.
Linux on all their electric cars, and they’re watching porn while driving ;)
Where do I sign?
You need to write “I agree on the terms of service, rent agreement and privacy policy of any electric vehicle manufacture” in order for me to elaborate on the topic, please.
On the fat cheque
Oh right. I knew I missed something.
I especially appreciate that the graph is designed as “Linux” and “Other” instead of “Windows”, maybe “MacOS” and “Other”.
I wish there were more focus on the desktop and app gui side of things on Linux
sure using the terminal to install things is very efficient but some people just want an install button and a gui that they don’t have to use more than 2 braincells to figure out why package not found or some obscure error with an app for the next 2 hours with forum pages full of condescending non answers
thank you for the recommendations!
Those are somewhat niche distros, id personally recommend mint, zorin, pop_os! or what have you.
It really depends on what your usecase and tastes are though.
Haven’t you just recommended 3 stale Ubuntu variants there?
I don’t think that’s been an issue for several years now. At least for distros focused on user friendliness.
I can’t vouch for every Linux distro that claims to be user-friendly, but I’ve fully switched to Linux Mint a couple of months ago, and I’ve had no issues. The only times I’ve used the console are when I want to use it.
My biggest worry before fully switching was playing pirated games, or games that I bought outside of Steam, but using Lutris it has been pretty straight forward.
Flatpak?
I’m a fan of the Flatpak trend. The latest version of Linux Mint has some interesting additions to how things are presented, as far as “verified” and “not verified”. Basically their app installer program lets you know if a particular Flatpak should be treated with caution, sort of like downloading a random .exe with Windows.
I recently installed Manjaro with KDE Plasma, and I’d like an easier way of getting Flatpaks out of the box with it. Their solution is to install Discover alongside their own app installer. So now I have two different GUI programs to open if I want to research something to install.
I actually disagree with a couple of changes Mint made regarding Flatpaks. Not showing reviews for unverified Flatpaks especially.
I get it, they want to punish unverified Flatpaks to give them a kick up the arse to get verified. But it also means that if something nefarious is going on with the unverified Flatpak, and Mint hasn’t taken it down yet, users can’t see reviews that might alert them to the app being dodgy.
It’s a similar issue to YouTube hiding dislikes making it difficult to quickly see whether a video guide is helpful/legit or not.
There’s also them disabling unverified Flatpaks by default. I can see why, but at the same time it’s perhaps hypocritical considering any software they package also isn’t packaged by the original software creator.
That said, I’m not that fussed about this one considering that if you’re using Mint in the first place, you probably trust Mint/Canonical and their repositories.
Good point about the reviews. I forgot about that part.
Yeah I definitely don’t want to sound negative on Flatpaks or on Mint, though.
Flatpaks are my preferred way of packaging apps, and while I’ve moved on from Mint for my own usecase (I like Gnome so Fedora made more sense to me), I always install Mint on other people’s old machines because it just works, is similar to Windows UX, doesn’t require you to be on top of updates very much, and has pretty sane defaults.
The idea with flatpaks are flawed by design as everything can’t be there. I want to install the latest version of these there: kde Plasma, wayland, Nvidia drivers, and the Linux kernel. It will never be available there. Better to go back to the drawing board on how to fix this in a good way.
A kernel flatpak? That’d be interesting.
I’m tired of pandering to people that can’t take the time to learn how to operate a computer. I hate the trend of the last 25 years of making everything “idiot proof”, because it’s not helping people, it’s making them dumber. I remember a time when normal users were expected to set DIP switches on their motherboards and edit autoexec.bat files.
A lot of gen-z doesn’t even know what a hierarchial filesystem is anymore. They just shove all their media into “galleries”, but can’t actually tell you where that file is actually located.
This is the unfortunate reality. My kids (11 and 9) have only ever used Linux distros, and they are keyboard warriors to boot. They say that the only reason to use the mouse is to aim in video games 🤣
You know, charts can lie, but with THAT crosshatch? Impossible.
Nothing is happening in Norway. Source: I live in Norway.
I’ve met only a handful people that use Linux on their desktop, plus some developers that use it at work.
I run (one of three partners) a small IT company in the UK. I’ve always Linuxed since around 1998. After messing with RedHat, Mandrake, Yggdrasil and others I settled down and ran Gentoo for many years and then Arch for some more.
I’m gradually dumping the Windows servers and replacing with Linux based beasties. We are also in the throws of replacing VMware with Proxmox.
I also have a pretty decent Kbuntu based desktop/laptop effort. I’ve done Windows client deployments in the 1000s so I have quite a good idea about compliance etc. An Ubuntu based box can run several AV solutions, secure boot and full disc encryption. Buzz words perhaps but also audit points and will get you over the line for Cyber Essentials Plus (UK).
Libre Office works for me and I used to teach office suites in the 90’s! Things have moved on since but a decimal alignment stop is a decimal alignment stop today too (do you know what that means?). I run our Exchange system, and I migrated it from GroupWise back in the day because the kool kids “required” it. Anyway, Evolution with EWS will get you full functionality for a client but with far less faff.
I’m taking my time. I already have at least two employees who are dyed in the wool Windows officianados begging me to migrate them to Linux. I will but it takes time. For example - “drive mappings” or in English: Remote mounts.
CID - https://cid-doc.github.io/ . This is an easy to add Windows compat thing. Its rather good. For static desktops its fine but for laptops that move around a lot it can be hard to get the file system mounts working again quickly in a dynamic environment.
CID uses a PAM mount based system and in the past I used another one (autofs I think). However it seems to me that mounts are not dynamic or responsive enough. In the end it is Samba and that might need some fettling as well.
As I said earlier, I’m taking my time (I’m an engineer) but be assured that Linux is quite capable of driving your desktop.
Then atleast fake it until you make it!
There are dozens of us
Baker’s dozens!
Yes,we know about your small population,but just because Karl uses Linux now,does that really matter?
dozens of dozens!
That’s gross.
noice
This reminds me of Meetup.com dying almost everywhere except Chicago where the HQ is and everyone uses it.
One extra Norwegian user in Statcounter’s biased and unrepresentative dataset started to use Linux, probably.
I don’t think it’s that biased and unrepresentative, as Pornhub’s usage statistics show about the same numbers for global Linux usage
Pornhub is legitimately one of the best sites for internet statistics around. It’s very widely visited and they actually put out the numbers. (Although, sadly, in my state of Virginia, they comply with identification requirements, so I only visit it with my VPN active, which then fucks up the stats.)
“Best sites”
What’s the source for this image?
I downloaded the data from globalstats statscounter
How do you make the graph? What type of graph is it?
So I can use it for browser marketshare and search engine marketshare.
You can download the .csv data from the website. Then make a stacked area chart in something like Excel/Google Sheets/Libreoffice Calc.
Of all countries Norway might be among the last to switch to Linux.
Rich countries tend to go the apple way.
It might surprise you to learn that Apple is not dominating the market here, neither in phones or laptops.
When I think about it, I only really know one person with a Macbok and at work, Android is probably 2/3. Source: I’m the IT guy ordering phones for everybody.
Statcounter’s graph of iOS market share points to more than half 56% on Norway, so I bet if there is a need for replacing windows in Norway they will swing to apple instead of Linux.
It would be pure guessing, but I’m not so sure iOS preferance necessarily translates to MacOS preferance. Especially with todays prices and interest rates. Again, just me guessing.
I hope Windows keeps making dumb decisions so we can find out though!
1 out of the 3 total norwegian changed the OS after creating a lemmy account.
We’re quite stupid and easy to influence.
Proof in point: I’ve gone from 0 to 3 Linux machines since joining Lemmy.
Someone send help, please??
I can send you an ISO file with more Tux.
Buy Raspberry Pis in bulk and make pointless SBC projects. It’s the only thing that will fulfill you.
Go Pine64
And grab their risc-v model
Or the arm version. They both are good for software freedom
Go Framework
Same here. Maybe that explains it, all linux users just run multiple systems. I dont know many people who use linux certainly not every third person I meet.
Source: æøå
I really want to and at the same time don’t want to know where your name comes from…
I’m thinking koffert straight away
No luggage no worries
You laugh but I installed my first Linux distro after leaving reddit and coming here lol.
One must protect their liberty
Serious question for you all. I too wish to see Linux use increase. I also want to see corporate social media die. I am thinking of requiring my students to create Lemmy accounts for a Lemmy group i create.
Do you think this might move folks away from essy corporate os and social media? How do You see it giving wrong?
I like the idea, but a lot of people resent being made to create accounts on random services. We know that Lemmy is good because we’re here, but it might put them off the idea.
Depending on the age of your students, you might have to be careful about the fact that NSFW content is freely available here, and check the terms of your instance to see if they’re allowed to make accounts in the first place e.g. on most social media and forums you have to be 13 or over.
These are college students. I’ll try to make the assignment relevant and fun.
Awesome, good luck 🙂
requiring my students to create Lemmy accounts
No. Nobody likes registering accounts for random services because an authority figure told them they had to, I feel like if it were me I would do the bare minimum of interacting that I was required to and never look at the service again out of resentment.
Haven’t seen this in the other comments: Coolness factor. If you’re a successfully popular teacher, i.e. “cool”, then your students will likely want to participate in whatever it is you suggest.
However, if they don’t see you as cool, you might have difficulty, and might even put them off the platform. This is not something that can be fixed easily, and trying to be cool is about as uncool as you can get.
(Making it mandatory will work, of course, but how you go about that could determine whether they choose to stay on the platform once you’re done. This was kind of covered by OP talking about Matrix in another comment here.)
I like it! Even if the majority of em completely abandon the accounts afterwards, it’ll increase the visibility of a fledgeling platform AND it’ll show a few folks that alternative social media platforms exist.
I mean, shit, if lemmy can suit my needs there’s no reason it shouldn’t work for at least some of em.
I remember a teacher requiring us to use Matrix for a coding class. We still mostly used Discord, and after that class ended, we never used it again.
You and I have a reason we use Lemmy: we don’t want to use Reddit and want the Fediverse to grow. Simply forcing your students to make Lemmy accounts won’t do anything, in fact it might make them hate it (Oke boomer).
Eh, just because you can’t make a horse drink water is no reason not to lead it there.
“hey there’s this thing called lemmy, check it out some time” <- leading a horse to water
“ok you have to register an account on lemmy, it’s part of your grade” <- shoving a hose down the horse’s throat and cranking the spigot
Exactly. I remember when my favorite teacher said “This is a textbook. Check it out sometime”.
