Yes, I want the most for Firefox to be twice as slow as my current browser (Firefox/Fennec)
When I got to the second set of most wanted/least wanted I gave up. Maybe that was the intent behind the design of the survey.
Why?..
I wonder what percentage of people chose “Least important” for “Do you want another fucking annoying pointless AI assistant?”
from this comment and the reply, I’m guessing at least 3.
I hope all of them. If you use firefox you are probably in the minority that has at peast some idea of how unnecessary those are.
What about tab groups
This the most blizzare survey I have ever seen. What is even happening?
We want a true black-dark mode for OLED. This missing feature is holding me back from going 100% Firefox on mobile (I am only using it for horrible websites that are asking fo the ublock origin treatment.
2022 request for this feature: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/provide-a-black-dark-mode-in-firefox-mobile/idi-p/2578/page/4#comments
Which of the following attributes would you most want your new browser to have, and which would you want least?
Twice as slow as your current browser
Is that a joke?
Wait, I swear mine said twice as fast. Well I guess I got filtered then. Lol
I had both.
There were both
Control question probably, to check if you actually read the questions.
Makes sense. What about those who click that option as a joke? Maybe discount all other replies from that person because of that too?
Or what if they don’t click it by joke, but because they actually prefer a 2x slower browser over such a feature?
I mean, fair?
lol, yeah. 👍
I was doing a political poll just the other day and the third or fourth question was a color question like: “Which of the following is associated most with a ripe banana?”
Eh, how ripe are we talking?
I forgot those exist and interpreted it as “Would you sacrifice performance for one of these features?”
Am I stupid?
I also thought it was a feature vs performance question. How can it be used as a control question?
By overestimating users’ intelligence… classic blunder, really. 🧐
I jest, I’ve no idea.
Mozilla might be insane
It’s an Inferred importance method, as other users have commented it is likely that there are some calibration metrics in there. MaxDiff is the name of the approach if you want to check out more.
For me that was together with
A privacy-respecting AI assistant that makes your browser smarter by learning how you use it
So I don’t really care how slow the browser is, as long as it doesn’t have an AI “assistant” that is monitoring my browser usage
I wouldn’t mind an AI assistant, as long as it’s fully local.
Why would you want that in a browser? We have LLMs you can run local.
Can you let me have my own preferences? Am I allowed?
Not at the cost of my experience. It should be a optional feature if anything
But why? If you want that, you can just have it outside of your browser. Or maybe get an extension that works with an AI assistant on your machine.
I honestly don’t care either way about an AI assistant. I don’t intend to use it, so I’d much rather their efforts be spent elsewhere.
Yup, I stuck that as “least want.” I already marked “2x faster performance” as “most want” on another question, so hopefully it all shakes out in the end.
You clearly missed the point about “privacy respecting.” It will only share data with Meta, Google and the US government.
Oh, what a deal…
The survey is broken on Firefox for Android. The first set of most wanted and least wanted statements doesn’t let me set an answer for all 3. As soon as I set an answer for the 3rd statement it clears the answer for my first statement.
That’s working as intended. The survey won’t accept you wanting two things most or least. You can pick one you want most, one you want least, and the unselected option is the one you have the weakest opinion on.
You Should reach out to them and let them know of this glitch.
That isn’t a break. They are forcing you rank them by most, least, and between.
I don’t think you understood the assignment friend.
Of each set of 3, you can only have one marked as most wanted and one marked as least wanted. You will leave one statement blank.
When looking for a new web browser, which feature would you prefer most and which would you prefer least?
- A color palette that matches Danny DeVito’s armpit hair.
- Play the theme to Annie at startup.
- Take up all computer resources.
I don’t want any of those. Can’t we just have a browser that filters all of the popups, junk and advertising?
Nope. You can’t progress through the survey without picking one thing you really don’t want and at least one of two things you couldn’t give a shit less about.
This one was kinda oof
They needed to have something that might be less appealing than an AI assistant
Oh. I had different sets. I had all 3 options but not against each other. So it seems they’re randomized.
Edit: hadn’t read the other replies. People have already figured that out, it seems.
You’d rather have yours twice as slow than a feature you could probably disable? Weird blind hate ngl
I think that’s a good way of measuring “bullshit” in tge surver. The only problem is that you get just one of these questionnaires and a bunch of other questions for the entire survey
I dont want any AI built into my browser. The speed would not be that noticeable anyway as it is quite fast rn.
I hope like hell the sets of questions were randomized, because if they weren’t, they were tweaked by the surveyors beforehand to try and force a particular result.
Like the AI question was paired with some incredibly crappy options like “A browser that runs 2x slower than your current browser”. Obviously they want you to click that option as least wanted and leave the AI development alone (if that wasn’t a randomized grouping).
Similarly, it looked like they were trying to decide which feature to sacrifice in support of AI dev in later questions, because all 3 would be things I enjoy much more than AI, but I have to rate one as least wanted.
My 2x slower was paired with the 2x faster 🤣 guess which one I chose?
It was randomised for me because the 2x slower option didn’t appear with any AI questions for me
They were randomized.
For me ‘2x slower’ was not paired with any AI.This survey is very confusing
My conference in Mozilla is now almost zero
Things I want from Firefox/Mozilla, in no particular order:
- Just hire the uBlock Origin guy, Chrome doesn’t want him
- Dissolve the Mozilla Corporation, start a Patreon or whatever
- Foxkeh plushie
I am willing to compromise on the “unreasonable” ones 🦊
Everyone’s here complaining about the randomised questions when I’m just curious why location options are “Germany”, " Brazil", “USA”, or " Somewhere we don’t care about".
Yeah wtf going on there, what’s Germany, Brazil and USA got the rest of us don’t?
Those are simply the most significant Firefox user bases.
Privacy law considerations. Germany is downright good for its citizens. The US has a round about spying industry. Brazil basically has mandatory mass surveilance. Everyone else’s laws are more or less the same. Not identical. But Mozilla can meet their requirements pretty trivially
Everyone else’s laws are more or less the same.
The EU and UK have almost identical privacy laws - the GDPR, so Germany having exceptional privacy laws doesn’t hold up. As far as other privacy laws go I think France has a lead on Germany with approximately the same population, so privacy law can’t be the main consideration.
What country do you live in: Germany, United States, Brazil, other
What? Weird survey options.
Very weird, because it’s not sorted alphabetically. That means there is a bias in the sorting, because the first option is default and the best option for most users.
They are sorted at random for each visitor.
Oh I meant this as a joke, to place Germany as the best answer.^^ But regardless, good to know its random. Probably doesn’t even matter.
𝔅𝔦𝔱𝔱𝔢 𝔣𝔬𝔯𝔪𝔲𝔩𝔦𝔢𝔯𝔢𝔫 𝔖𝔦𝔢 ℑ𝔥𝔯𝔢 𝔎𝔯𝔦𝔱𝔦𝔨 𝔞𝔫 𝔡𝔢𝔯 𝔅𝔲𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔯𝔢𝔭𝔲𝔟𝔩𝔦𝔨 𝔇𝔢𝔲𝔱𝔰𝔠𝔥𝔩𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔭𝔯ä𝔷𝔦𝔰𝔢 𝔲𝔫𝔡 𝔨𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔲𝔨𝔱𝔦𝔳. 𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔣𝔞𝔩𝔩𝔰 𝔪ü𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫 𝔴𝔦𝔯 𝔖𝔦𝔢 𝔞𝔲𝔣 𝔢𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔏𝔦𝔰𝔱𝔢 𝔰𝔢𝔱𝔷𝔢𝔫. 𝔉𝔞𝔵 𝔦𝔰𝔱 𝔴𝔞𝔯𝔪 𝔲𝔫𝔡 𝔟𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔢𝔟𝔰𝔟𝔢𝔯𝔢𝔦𝔱, 𝔜𝔞𝔫𝔨𝔢𝔢.
Data retention would be my guess.
Someone being funny? BUG
I didn’t see that question, but all 3 of those countries seem to rank pretty high on the country demographics for FOSS that I’ve seen (as in when individual FOSS projects do demographics surveys of their users)
could just be the countries with the most users or where they’ve seen a recent trend, up or down, in local market share.
Do they publish any of the data from these surveys or use it as an excuse to remove more useful features?
“We listen to our community, so now we’re removing
about: configaccess from stable desktop builds to match the mobile version to provide uniform builds, making problems easier to replicate and also provide better security for all. Please use beta or nightly builds for tinkering.”“We found that users wanted AI over a 2x slower browser”
Product managers know what KPI’s they want to improve, and its almost never survey sentiment results. The survey will be used to justify projects that improve the KPIs they already have. Best case scenario it helps them choose what to work on first, worst case (and most likely) it doesn’t matter what the survey says - it’s engineered to justify a pet project.
i.e. Straight out of “how to lie with statistics” - Would you rather drink bleach or add in browser advertisements based on privacy respecting AI categorization of you browsing behavior? … The people have spoken and they OVERWHELMINGLY want more monetization in their browser.
Duh. I’d rather drink bleach.
Honestly it the world gets bad enough it could get that extreme…
How much AI do you want in your browser:
( ) None
( ) Zero
( ) I want my browser to automatically close any page that mentions AI
Which of these options do you prefer:
( ) having an AI assistant integrated into the browser
( ) getting kicked in the balls by elon musk
i guess daddy musk is coming to make my dreams come true
A genuinely tough decision
Well, getting kicked in the balls is a one-time affair, and I’m done having kids anyway, so I’d go with that.
hi we’re the marketing team and we already decided what we want to do, and we can make up whatever data you want to see for us to justify it!
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that question seemed directly made by some software dev that shares my opinion lol
i picked 2x slower browser over ai because at least if it is gonna be slower im not gonna be harassed by some amalgamation of every incel shitpost on the Internet
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