Up next: mouse cartridges.
“her”.
And there you have it.
This is no less, than a gaslighting tactic
They already can’t make a fucking mouse that won’t suffer from double clicks within a few years. They have a model, albeit a shitty one, that has people repeatedly buying their products. I will never buy another Logitech product if they even make a “luxury” mouse for the wealthy that has subs, even if they keep a free option. It’s not for me, but the existence of such product is a deal breaker in itself.
Can you tell us which mouse you use? I miss my Mx Marble.
I have two Wireless Pro Gs, one for work and one for home. I used a g502 for many years and the battery started being shitty with it. I replaced it, but it kept telling me to change it anyway. I then got a g502s that failed within 2 years with double clicking. Then a g902 I think, which started double clicking just after a year. Then I got my first Pro G. I enjoyed it enough to fork out for a second one for work. A couple of months ago, my at home Pro G started double clicking, this is maybe 2-3 years in now. Blowing it out helped a little, but not much. One time I accidentally opened a whole bunch of emails I was going to delete, and slammed it on my desk, and it’s been fine since.
My next mouse will probably be a different brand, even just to play the field a bit.
Oooh, percussive maintenance. LOL
Thanks for replying.
Yeah they don’t have any plans now. After getting shouted at by everyone.
This is just a symptom of the corporate insanity that believes that every year you must make more money than the previous year and simply making a large amount of money isn’t acceptable unless it’s going upwards.
It’s Logitech, they make keyboards and mice they’re not high value items. There’s no innovating that needs to happen here. I’m sure companies that manufacture staples, drawing pins, and paper clips could give them some pointers in calming down and just existing.
They never really did, it was a talking point brought up initially by the interviewer and they guided the CEO into responding to it so that they could have some clickbait headlines. CEO should have known better than to engage and they sure learned that lesson, they’re not going to be talking to that outlet again, but it’s really just shitty interviewing that created this entire news cycle.
So, it’s the interviewers job to not ask potentially embarrassing questions?
The transcript is below. It looks like the CEO definitely had it in mind and was hesitant to say it directly. The interviewer did a good job of getting them to admit it.
What they want to sell:
A mouse with the quality of the mice 20 years ago. And you need to subscribe to software updates. However the subscription is not optional. If you don’t pay monthly you can’t use the mouse.
What I would actually pay for:
A high quality mouse with an open interface and maybe open source software for it. So I can maintain the software by myself. Usually you can achieve a high quality standard in a few months, and unless there are some driver issues, it should work forever.
I have a “gamer mouse” with a lot of features, custom dpi settings, custom color settings, rebinding keys and so on.
However I used the software once to set it up and on Linux I can’t even change it. I will never receive any updates!
Quality of the mouse of 20 years ago? Are were going to need the cook the eggs extra long to replace the mouse balls again?
We’d already switched to optical mice in 2004.
Which was only 10 years ago.
You might want to check that again.
Shhh yes, yes it’s 2014. Obama just made it so we can unlock our phones legally. You are playing Skyrim for (only) the 4th time. Covid sounds like a bad name for a youtube podcast. The jenga tower of your game mods crashes down. You grunt… Did you save recently?
What I’m wondering is: who the hell is upvoting that?
Me, for one.
And feel old? No thanks!
Ratbagd / Piper doesn’t work for your mouse?
Never tried it. I didn’t knew that existed
Works for my Logi mouse, was very happy when I found the package (thanks nixpkgs search)
What sane people will buy: hey this one’s good enough, plus it’s on sale for $10!
Nah, wouldn’t want to miss the accelerated scroll of the MX Master. Why is this not standard yet, software-side like pointer acceleration?
one of our team members showed me a forever mouse with the comparison to a watch. This is a nice watch, not a super expensive watch, but I’m not planning to throw that watch away ever.
Then, almost immediately starts talking about Rolex watches as if they are not expensive. This woman is very out of touch with reality like all CEOs.
Ah yes, the ol’ “joking about a threesome” trick.
“What?! Oh, no I mean… I was just joking, honey. I’d never do that… I mean unless…”
No I didn’t mean I wanted to try but butt stuff! I was just kidding! Unless you’re into it honey 😜!
That always reeks of so much insecurity to me. Just own up to it. If you are in a relationship, “sure, I would do a threesome, but only if you actively want it too and we both agreed on the person and what was allowed or forbidden”. Not in a relationship, “Sure, I would be down for a threesome as long as the desires and limits of all people involved are discussed before hand and accepted by all”. There, with that attitude there’s less risk of confusion or misunderstanding.
Not sure why you’re getting down votes because this is the way. If you want something, be open and ask for consent. Just be okay with people saying no, too, and you’re good
Actually 100% agree. Was more about the meme than real life though.
Communication, honesty, boundaries that are mutually agreed upon and respected is the sign of a healthy relationship… not any artificial external construct set by religion, peers, or some perceived “norm” from society.
That being said, I couldn’t think of a more clever comparison to make. 😅
“Not in a relationship” : I’m up for a twoesome!
Wow, a mythical rational adult talking about sexual topics in a mature fashion, that’s like a unicorn!
But seriously, you’re right on the money. That’s how my wife and I started bringing people into our relationship, and now we have a throuple hahaha.
Look, I’m not gay but if my girl wants to bang Andrew Garfield, we’re having a three-way. My only ground rule is no one is allowed to leave anyone else for Andrew Garfield. And that includes Andrew Garfield…
CEO: says stupid shit
Corporate Comms: sigh CLEANUP ON AISLE 3
They do have great products, they just need to learn, like basically all corpos, to just shut up.
Good because the entire idea is completely idiotic.
Yeah… Now that everyone found out about the idea and said “fuck Logitech.” lol
If there was no reaction or a positive reaction to it they would definitely be planning on releasing one.
I am so fucking tired of this era of rampant consumer abuse. So. Fucking. Tired.
They test us and test us and test us until we are so exhausted that one of their bullshit tests goes through and becomes an industry standard and now everyone except a tiny handful of ridiculously rich people are slightly worse off.
Repeat ad enshittificatum.
And any “consumer victory” just means after an exhaustive fight, they’ll still just wait 5-10 news cycles and do the bad thing anyway. It’s republicans modified gish gallop playbook.
- Tests the waters
- Finds it far too close to boiling point
- Loudly claims “I have no plan to get in there!”
(But we’re still doing it, shhh)
I mean everyone knows that the answer to whether they’d live to do this is “yes”, but you don’t have to guess. They pretty much say ‘yes we’re planning it’ in PR doublespeak:
Logitech’s stance is “the mouse mentioned is not an actual or planned product but a peek into provocative internal thinking on future possibilities for more sustainable consumer electronics.”
So… They’re not planning to make it but they’re investigating the market possibility of selling it? Golly PRtalk is rough.
Luckily the CEO comes in hot again for us. Besides comparing the Morse to a Rolex he has this to say:
I’m going to ask this very directly. Can you envision a subscription mouse?
Possibly.
And that would be the forever mouse?
Yeah.
So you pay a subscription for software updates to your mouse.
Yeah, and you never have to worry about it again, which is not unlike our video conferencing services today.
But it’s a mouse.
But it’s a mouse, yeah.
I think consumers might perceive those to be very different.
[Laughs] Yes, but it’s gorgeous. Think about it like a diamond-encrusted mouse.
Diamond crusted to who?
Logitech has, in fact, EOLd parts of the video conferencing hardware. At best it may continue to work but no longer recieve updates. At worst teams and zoom deprecate APIs that are critical and force you to upgrade.
think about it like a diamond crusted mouse
Yeah bit it’s not… And it’s a piece of shit hardware that will cost youaybe 5-10 bucks to produce and you’ll soon enough rent it out for 5 bucks per month.
Fuck. You.
I have a POS wireless mouse given to me by a contracting agency in 2004, that still works fine. I traveled with that thing for years.
I think I’m done with Logitech anything, and they were my go-to for lots of stuff since the late 90’s.
SaaS occasionally makes sense but I’m overall against it. Hardware SaaS has been dumb as fuck since AMD tried to charge us extra to unlock cores we already had on the chip and like 6 seconds until we fished out how to get around it.
Fruit of the Loom has no plans for a subscription underpants.
“Subscription expired, reverting to transparent burlap trial version.”
NOW they don’t because word got out too soon
“Ahahaha. I was kidding. …unless…?”
