• AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.eeOP
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    5 months ago

    If you want shit to be better, it means voting for Harris and making a shit ton of noise all the way to the next election

    Has that ever worked before?

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      5 months ago

      Is Biden still running?

      Harris isn’t perfect, I’ve been saying it since she replaced Biden.

      But I’ve also been saying she’s still better than Biden, even after this recent push where she’s going back on what little people liked about her in 2019, she’s still better than Biden.

      The reason things improved, was people making a shit ton of noise.

      It works.

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          5 months ago

          And why did they abandon him?

          Because of one of the largest voter outcries in modern political history…

          Those same donors profit off our healthcare system.

          Which is almost assurdly why Kamala changed her stance on M4A. But Biden legitimately didn’t want M4A.

          So Harris is still an improvement, and if people keep up the pressure, donors won’t try to pull her more to the right. And we can maybe pull her left.

          Like, we’re 100% fighting the donors, we agree on that.

          But I’m saying we can’t stop fighting no matter what…

          And your strategy boils down to “has anyone thought about if we stop trying to fight donor influence?”

          I believe my path forward is more likely to result in the change we want, that’s where we disagree.

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            5 months ago

            I guess from my perspective I didn’t see much outcry towards Biden. He had a shitty debate but we all knew he is super old and was better than Trump anyway.

            I just don’t see how voting for someone is “fighting” what they stand for. If big donors dictate Kamala’s platform and we vote for her then we support the big donors. Whereas if leftists stand together and refuse to compromise they’ll be forced to come to us.

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              5 months ago

              I guess from my perspective I didn’t see much outcry towards Biden

              You don’t watch any of the late night shows, don’t read any political articles, and just joined social media?

              It was literally everywhere…

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      5 months ago

      It works for conservatives everytime people like you sit at home while they pull the Overton window further right.

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          5 months ago

          Not so good with the reading, are you?

          Dobbs is an example of it working for conservatives because they go out and vote instead of sitting around with their thumbs up their asses.