Editorialized headline. Original is “Kamala Harris’ complicated history with Medicare for All becomes a Trump campaign attack line”
Please revert it back so we don’t have to remove the post.
Democrats acting Republican is fact no matter what the headlines are
Harris does not support Medicare for all and neither did Biden
he said it to get votes not because he meant during the last campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris_2024_presidential_campaign
Healthcare
Harris has supported efforts to strengthen coverage under the Affordable Care Act,[106] including setting caps on seniors’ out-of-pocket prescription drug prices at $2,000 and limiting the cost of insulin for those on Medicare to $35 enacted as part of the Inflation Reduction Act.[117] Harris has been a proponent of White House efforts to ban medical debt from credit reports.[125] Harris has stated she no longer supports a single-payer healthcare system.[106]
It still breaks community rules, chump.
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OP is a sea lion. Don’t engage with the sea lion.
Harris’ team said recently that she no longer backs the plan, which fell out of vogue with Democrats as Joe Biden surged to the nomination four years ago as one of the few candidates to vocally oppose it. Instead, he campaigned on improving and expanding the Affordable Care Act, which he has focused on during his term and Harris has supported as his vice president.
Dem voters never stopped wanting M4A, Biden’s stance on healthcare was one of the many many things I held my nose on when I voted for him.
I just don’t think I can vote for Kamala any more. I’m already sketchy on her being a cop. Her entire campaign is about emotional “Let’s do the vaguely left sounding thing!” without any actual plans to make those things happen. And now I find out she supports our for profit health system?
If anyone can recommend an actual leftist candidate to vote for instead let me know.
The cop stuff is pretty overblown.
If only people who agree with our current justice system become DA’s we’ll never fix our justice system.
But between Harris and Obama… It’s really starting to look like Joe is some kind of vampire that sucks anything progressive from the people he spends time with
Harris just keeps coming out and saying she’s against popular progressive stances.
If anyone can recommend an actual leftist candidate to vote for instead let me know
At this point in the game, voting for anything besides the main parties is throwing your vote away.
If you want shit to be better, it means voting for Harris and making a shit ton of noise all the way to the next election in a desperate bid to drag Harris back to a position where the majority of people who would conceivably vote D dont hate her as a candidate.
If you want shit to be better, it means voting for Harris and making a shit ton of noise all the way to the next election
Has that ever worked before?
It works for conservatives everytime people like you sit at home while they pull the Overton window further right.
I’m going to take your lack of any examples as “No it has never worked before”
Not so good with the reading, are you?
Dobbs is an example of it working for conservatives because they go out and vote instead of sitting around with their thumbs up their asses.
Is Biden still running?
Harris isn’t perfect, I’ve been saying it since she replaced Biden.
But I’ve also been saying she’s still better than Biden, even after this recent push where she’s going back on what little people liked about her in 2019, she’s still better than Biden.
The reason things improved, was people making a shit ton of noise.
It works.
The big donors abandoned Biden, so he dropped out. Those same donors profit off our healthcare system.
And why did they abandon him?
Because of one of the largest voter outcries in modern political history…
Those same donors profit off our healthcare system.
Which is almost assurdly why Kamala changed her stance on M4A. But Biden legitimately didn’t want M4A.
So Harris is still an improvement, and if people keep up the pressure, donors won’t try to pull her more to the right. And we can maybe pull her left.
Like, we’re 100% fighting the donors, we agree on that.
But I’m saying we can’t stop fighting no matter what…
And your strategy boils down to “has anyone thought about if we stop trying to fight donor influence?”
I believe my path forward is more likely to result in the change we want, that’s where we disagree.
I guess from my perspective I didn’t see much outcry towards Biden. He had a shitty debate but we all knew he is super old and was better than Trump anyway.
I just don’t see how voting for someone is “fighting” what they stand for. If big donors dictate Kamala’s platform and we vote for her then we support the big donors. Whereas if leftists stand together and refuse to compromise they’ll be forced to come to us.
As a woman I still want my rights for health care at this point. All health care.
Politics are a large ship. It’s not going to turn on a dime, but you do have to pilot it in the right direction. Voting for anyone but Harris is voting for the ship to turn back the other way towards the iceberg of climate change, hatred, and corporate oligarchy. Have patience and bear towards where you want to go and understand the ship doesn’t turn quickly.
But when Trump was president things changed on a dime all the time. Sometimes overnight we lost rights.
Not true. It might seem that way due to media coverage, but these things were a long time coming. The wheels have been turning since Reagan. There were also other events that changed the political climate like the Supreme Court judgement on the Bush/Kerry election. These events were threads that were pulled leading to those events.
I mean, the entirety of the nation’s gay population was able to get married pretty much out of the blue one day while Obama was president, but that had events leading up to it too.
Not one who can win. You’re going to get either Harris or Trump, Trump would burn it all down.
Well there are two candidates running there will have a possibility of winning, Kamala Harris, and Donald Trump.
So we just continue to let ourselves be held hostage every 4 years? Vote for a candidate that doesn’t represent our interests because the other candidate is more overtly evil?
And there ya go exposing yourself. “I’m just asking questions.”
What hidden agenda do you think I have?
Yep, very likely JAQing off. Though, lemm.ee seems to have a similar Tankie issue than lemmy.ml.
You can vote for a third candidate that has 0 chance of winning and thus essentially helping Trump to win. So ask yourself: Does that represent your interests? You’re either a one issue voter, which is just stupid, or you’re spreading disinformation in favor of Trump, which is malicious.
We’re not allowed to criticize Kamala now?
There are absolutely legitimate complaints against Harris, but people need to do it in an honest way.
Example, my main gripe with her which should have eliminated her from being the VP pick, much less the Presidential candidate:
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html
Personally, I don’t like her and I don’t trust her, but I’d vote for her 1,000 times over Trump.
I’ve been accused of being dishonest in this thread but I don’t see how. Medicare For All is extremely important to me and a lot of other leftists.
Alright. Stop JAQing off. You know full well what you’re doing. Political troll.
It’s harm reduction. Voting is what you do to prevent the more evil thing from happening while you work towards fixing things so that you have better options.
I mean obviously I agree Kamala is the less evil candidate. But how do we get out of this system of voting for the lesser evil?
Dissolve the electoral college and enact ranked choice voting.
You need to be more active in the more local elections before you can effect change on the larger elections. No there is absolutely no chance right now of a wild card taking anything of value when you’re on ou other option is a guy who literally said he wants to be and will implement being a dictator on day one. There are bigger things at stake right now.
There are always bigger things at stake. So as long as Republicans continue being cartoonishly evil Democrats get a free pass to do nothing?
Bro, what is it with people like you who keep thinking Trump has been in every election cycle since the start of the country? It’s bad faith through and fucking through.
Or, now hear me out, OR you campaign for ranked choice balloting in your state. Hey, Alaska did it. How hard can it be?
yep
Fuck that
The long term solution is replacing the Electoral College with a nationwide ranked choice system, so you can vote your heart with your first pick but not ruin the chances of the hold-your-nose major candidate you can live with over the other guy. With this in place, the smaller parties can build momentum without being seen as spoilers and maybe actually get somewhere.
lmao It’s her, or Trump. Choose.
He may say it’s his focus but insurance is extra shitty these days. Subsidized is of better quality but if you make too much to qualify for subsidized it’s super expensive garbage.
As a leftist it’s deeply disappointing to see Democrats once again abandon us.
