What’s great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he’s absolving Musk, or that he’s criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,
‘No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!’
Hes a great friend of Israel. If any thing, hes anti-woke, the salute is more of an anti-woke salute than its a nazi-salute. The group most upset about it are the left and friends.
Why is this thread full of Nazi propaganda? Yikes. 😬
If Elon isn’t a full-blown Nazi, he’s at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.
Yeah, his alliances life with power, money, and people thinking he’s cool (narcissism). The racism and cruelty are just his personal side projects.
I’d imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.
Before? What, in primary school?
All Nazis are assholes Not all assholes are Nazis
What did he do to out himself, out of curiosity?
He punched a guy in 2015 over available food options, which got him fired from BBC. His popularity didn’t take that much of a hit from this incident despite him clearly being in the wrong (Hammond and May both left BBC with him and they started a new show The Grand Tour, which wasn’t as popular as Top Gear, but was still popular.
Then, in 2022, he wrote an opinion piece for the Sun about how much he hates Megan Merkle and included a bit where he said she should be paraded naked through the town. Amazon decided to not start any new projects with him after this, though they continued with the plans to wind down The Grand Tour which had already been established.
He’s got a farming show now, so he wasn’t cancelled over this, despite burning some bridges.
Nobody really remembers, it was so long ago.
Then all’s well, I guess. Just like Hitler. Who was he? ANYWAY let’s get some froghurt…
lemmy users: “That’s no excuse!”
Fry used to be on Mastodon, not sure if he’s still there ?
Just looked…the accounts still there. No apparent activity in a year.
based we did it fascism is defeated
Not every strike in the battle has to be the winning blow.
We did it! Great job everyone!
TBF, Elon’s cars are great at killing groups of people with toxic gasses and then incineration their bodies. Just because he isn’t efficient today, doesn’t mean he isn’t working on being a better Nazi tomorrow.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-four-dead-lake-shore-cherry-1.7361751
One day he’s criticized for saying that Hitler was a communist, the other for apparently assuming his love of nazis.
There’s an old series of books by Terry Goodkind that i’ve read as a child, named the Sword of Truth, each book has a wizard’s rule, and here’s the first one :People are stupid. They believe things mainly because they either want them to be true or fear them to be true.
I’m not particularly fond of these books nor do i agree with this rule, but if you’re political then you’re judging real political actions, such as enacted laws, like adults do, or you’re eventually discussing assumed theories, but not unfair little excerpts regretted afterwards by the one who did them, and we can hopefully both agree that we should not explain our worldview or vote based on the latter, its ‘just for fun’/‘not serious’.
At least most journalists know that it’s only about influencing his future decisions, but you don’t if you believe it was ‘a coming out’/‘something to be discussed seriously’.
That’s just my two cents, thanks for reading my insults towards ~you, and let’s continue not changing.Elon is the new Henry Ford. But I’m afraid we have no modern day Roosevelts to smack him down.
He’s the new Henry Ford, but also, he’s the new Henry Ford
Henry Ford actually had some good ideas himself. Elon steals all his ideas.
Nah, I’m sure Cybertruck was the example of him messing around in a 3d modeling software and then saying to Tesla engineers “make a car out of this”. There’s no other excuse for the lack of thought in its outer design.
I mean design aside, there is no reason to make it this shit, even if it looks bad. It’s just a rug pull but with cars. There is no way in hell you see one of these driving around in 10 years, except some rare cases of garage queens. The car had a pre-order system for fucks sake. The selling point of the car is that: “in an apocalypse, you can just drive over other cars.” Which says a lot about the clientele of that thing.
Ohhhh so Edison?
The company being named Tesla seems pretty Edison.
Amazing that during bidens regime all i had to do was date a bdsm guy from austria and get labeled a nazi by even work. I dont know how they found out cause he was half a state away and it was a long distance relationship. I still get called it even with elon prancing about. IDGAF musk is a n*zi. Let those karens on toktok get fired.
The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It’s the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.
Before King Tiger and Tiger they had a few very good tanks.
Just when T-34 (which were clearly superior to German tanks once some bugs were ironed out, different class even) production went out of control, Hitler started making more decisions involved in what kind of machines is going to be developed and built.
I, as of recently, live in a place where I actually see those things driving around (and a lot of other trucks). They look like children’s toys compared to the absolute monster fords and some other trucks (not to mention they really do age like milk from what I’ve seen). Some of these behemoths can’t even fit in a single parking spot, it’s kind of insane. One of those would be more deserving of this title I think (I don’t know cars so I can’t say any specific models I’m afraid)
I think RAMs or similar win in that category by being as actively harmful as possible. And having the huge blindspot where you run over kids without noticing.
It can’t realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can’t travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.
Wasn’t the king tiger notorious for breaking down constantly? Or was that a different German WW2 tank?
Even up to present day conflict tanks breaking down or getting stuck can be a major loss of armor, especially during prolonged maneuvers.
That’s every one of those big German tanks everybody talks about. The ones they started the war with were pretty fine (limited by terrain, though).
Also dangerous for crews. Sherman tank crews had a 75% survival rating when their tank got bust. I think the tiger had an 80% death rate or something.
Is that because of the tank though, or the situation it ended up in? If they had 20 modern MBTs I expect they would still end up with a high fatality rate.
lol survival rate vs death rate.
OK so survival rating of 75% vs. 20%. Happy?
Difficult to make, too heavy to be effective, and iirc yeah, unreliable.
Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of “cultural purity” beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:
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He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid…
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He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.
there’s no real difference between a true believer nazi and one doing it as a bit. or one going along with it for profits. they’re all nazis.
¿Por que no los dos?
I wonder where she is now…
Awww. She’s all grown up, and seemingly successful.
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Let’s repeat it again kids. Elon Musk is a piece of shit
So is Stephen Fry.
Why? What did fry do?
He said sexual abuse victims should grow up and stop feeling sorry for themselves.
He jumped on the "I’m a Jew " bandwagon, in order to deflect criticism of Israel’s actions in Gaza. This is after presenting as atheist for all of his public life.
Anti trans JK Rowling supporter.
Goddammit. Why is no celebrity available to like anymore? I guess it’s true, we should not idolize anyone. Everyone is a piece of shit in some way or another, and to some level.
Except Keanu Reeves. He’s literally Jesus Christ. ❤️🔥😭
He probably said something reasonable that they disagreed with 😄
I don’t have full context, but he seems to be transphobic, or possibly trans exclusionary may be more accurate.
https://old.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1hi3opi/another_celeb_dissapointment_stephen_fry/
To put the video in short: Essentially gets asked if he still supports Stonewall even though they support trans kids and speak out against TERFs (worded much differently) and he says no I don’t support them any more, calling it nonsensical, shameful, and sad.
Thanks for the added context. That’s what I guessed based on comments, but wasn’t certain.
Is over 60 years old.
See what I enjoy about this comment is all things considered there’s a high likelihood you will live past the age of 60 at which point I hope younger people then call you a piece of shit on the daily simply because of your age. LOL
Did you really miss what I was saying there by that much?
The probability is that, as you age, your ability to change you attitudes in order to keep up will slow down to the point where you will seem regressive and problematic to 20yo children when you are 60.
The era that my parents grew up in would seem awful to most people now, but my parents were unaware that there were problems, and they have a hard time seeing a lot of them now.
I don’t know about you, but that sounds miserable. And what makes you think that you will be excluded?
Shhh that’s not important now. My goal is to outlive all of you, that’s my solace.
But. Then you would be the 60 year old asshole? Are you thick or did you not think this through?
Wrong, but you do you.
I think being a transphobe makes you a piece of shit, so you’re wrong actually. lol
Man, you drank some kool aid didn’t you? If someone doesn’t think like you, then they’re an asshole, in spite of an entire life of not being an asshole. Cool cool
Dude, shut up.
Perfect comeback there bud. You definitely made me say “shucks” while I snapped my fingers in a dramatic fashion 😘
Ew that karen ass response is just sad.
I would describe Elon Musk as an autistic adult whose weird behavior patterns and way too much money are dangerous in a system that gives money way too much power.
edit: just to be clear to the angry arrow smashers, I’m not offering excuses, rationalizations or support for Elon Musk, just a purely clinical view of his behavior, and why it’s so dangerous that our system gives so much power to money. Without the influence his billions give him he would be just another annoying weird guy. Some people would probably even feel some sympathy for him if it didn’t carry the risk of being called Evil.
I’ve autistic friend, she’s not a nazi. He’s just a cruel and rich sociopath.
I would say your friend’s actions need to be watched and controlled because they’re dangerous, and that the friend as a person needs help.
Autism =/= fascism or even being an insensitive moron. Autistic people are often highly sensitive to such topics.
You’re painting autistic people in a bad light. There is nothing about autism that excuses such behavior.
There’s also no reason to take anything I said as an “excuse”.
I would describe the wealthiest person in the world, Elon Musk, as the oligarchic son of an apartheid mining oligarch. His personality “quirks” are an irrelevant distraction that excuse & explain nothing.
His potential neurodivergence does not excuse the evil. The majority of autistic people comprehend morality.
I don’t think he’s trying to excuse it. I think he’s saying you’d view an autistic Nazi walmart greeter more differently than you’d view an autistic Nazi whose already the wealthiest man in the world, and society’s values are letting that wealth have a huge platform and allowing him to basically run the country unilaterally.
An autistic Nazi plebian doesn’t have that kind of influence. Many people would probably pity them. An autistic Nazi being given the world is probably a bad thing.
Yeah I guess we’re not allowed to talk about this guy clinically at all. Has to be about good vs evil.
You want to argue that armchair psychology is more important in this situation than condemning doing a Nazi salute?
Armchair psychology and armchair political rants are both armchair activities., so neither is more important, and they can both happen at the same time.
It’s just interesting that all statements about <bad guy du jour> are considered support if they aren’t condemnation. If you said Bill Cosby used to do funny standup for example, you would be flooded with hate because the only acceptable reason to mention Cosby is condemn him for being horrible. But understanding the psychology of horrible people is actually important. Think how it would be if you got a rectal disease and it turned out there was no cure because assholes are gross so nobody studies them and anybody who mentions them except to rant about how disgusting they are gets pounded with douchevotes and called a pervert. Objective talk about aspects of sociopaths should be okay. Don’t be the Christian who clutches their rosary every time somebody says “Satan”.
Not a lot of normies can hyperfocus enough to become billionaires
I think extreme wealth is a matter of luck. Lots of equally clever, equally hardworking people succeed moderately, but extreme wealth and success are a perfect storm of timing, economics, and a lot of other things that nobody controls.
